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        The amount of ethics of any leader is irrelevant in capitalism. The system itself demands the creation of monopolies and constant growth. If you try to be a good person, some other company will “win the race” and take you out of the competition one way or another.

        Expecting or demanding ethics of people is trying to fix the wrong problem, while the solution is toppling the entire system.

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          It’s more than that - once you grow to the point where management don’t all have personal relationships, how do you decide who to promote?

          Metrics. Meaning, money minus controversies… So basically, everyone with decision making power is incentivized to push profits as far as they can without crossing that ever shifting line where the public gets pissed at them…

          At all levels, there’s a selection pressure to find the people who push the boundaries as far as they to maximize short term profits without drawing attention to how the sausage is made…

          With that as the basis for all promotions across all industries, is there any surprise we are where we are, with the system cannibalizing itself now that there’s no new markets to expand into?

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            All of that has been predicted by Marx since the 19th century. And he already created a better system.

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      Was going to say, fuck Apple, but if you think they’re alone in this, you are obscenely naive

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            you’re were ‘going to say’ but your ‘going’ preface implied that you didn’t actually, even though you did write the text ‘fuck apple’. semantics, however I don’t think we should ever miss an opportunity to say fuck apple. Fuck Apple.

            upon re reading your text I now understand you were using the term ‘going to say’ in a colloquial sense not a literal one, so I misinterpreted the comment sry.

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          Maybe not in this article but this is a perpetual accusation for just about any large and successful corporation to deal with. Using “Apple” gets headlines, but you’ve probably read similar accusations against Alphabet, Microsoft, Epic, EA, John Deere, etc…

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    I think it goes back to Rockefeller and Standard Oil. Buy or squash competition until you are the only one standing. Certainly Bill Gates did this and quite aggressively at times.

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      Any big company that doesn’t do this is doing it wrong. You may not like it but that’s the way things work. But all big companies will eventually fall given enough time and management changes.

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        Since when is trying to keep someone from earning a living in their field of expertise because they worked for you count as ‘legitimate’?

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            It’s called knowledge, and it’s not fair to prevent people from using their knowledge.

            Apple already have their patents. That’s what patents are for! The startup can’t do exactly what Apple did, or they would be sued. The startup will have to use their knowledge to create NEW tech, and that’s an excellent result.

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            And if it doesn’t, they still can’t work. That’s not giving away IP, but they’re still fucked anyway.

            That’s exactly why companies poach people like this.

            Totally not because they are highly skilled engineers that can find other ways to solve the same problem.

            Everybody in the world is after Apple, so they’re completely justified in making sure engineers can’t work in their fields after working for them.

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        I’m sure they have an NDA and Apple hasn’t been innovative in a while. Even if you count the tampon ear thingies.

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            Apple is a huge, rich, billionaire in cash, company, they can write their NDAs in a way that would cover them both. Is Apple Silicon out? Because I haven’t heard of it so it can’t be that groundbreaking. What does it do?

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                It was on the front page but gatekeeping is a weird thing. I’m glad you love Apple, I’m sure it means a lot to them.

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                  If you’re gonna participate in a discussion within a specific community, I wouldn’t call it gate-keeping for others to expect of you at least a base level of topic-specific knowledge.

                  Apple silicon, within the tech community, and Apple specifically, was a major thing. It’s the reason Intel needed to up their game as it’s why Apple severed the relationship. It drastically increased both battery life and performance, while reducing heat. Even people who hated Apple took a moment to give credit for the industry advancement.

                  I expect Apple people to understand all that, as well as others in the computer hardware community. I think it’s fair to expect commenters in an “Apple Enthusiast” community to know what Apple Silicon is before they start bashing the company for total failure to innovate.

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              If you haven’t heard of it, you don’t follow hardware at all. M1 Macbooks were one of the highest profile, most broadly respected hardware releases in years, at least. Even people who have no interest in Mac OS took serious notice.

              If you don’t know what Apple Silicon is, you’re way too ignorant of the hardware space to comment on how innovative Apple is. Even extremely casual audiences have heard of it.

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                Obviously, I haven’t lol. But I’m admittedly not techy, I’m more of a software person. You’re very defensive about them, you have the tampon ear thingies, don’t you?

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                  Bro, these comments! lol

                  “I have no idea what I’m talking about, but since people are calling me out for talking out my ass, I’m instead gonna turn it on them for being ‘defensive,’ then recycle my same stupid ‘ear tampon’ insult.”

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                  I just can’t stand world class stupid comments. “Apple doesn’t innovate” is incontrovertible proof that you have no clue what you’re talking about. It’s not “2+2=5” level. It’s “2+2=sbtaywbshd”.

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    Each day, I read people discovering neoliberalism. It amazes me how naive people are.