• lynny@lemmy.world
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    At least they took a stand. Thousands of other subs who got the same ultimatums just gave in no questions asked, no malicious compliance.

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      I can understand that, lot of smaller sub are build by themselves, not wanting to lose something you spend so much time building to some random smug is pretty much human, it isn’t about holding that jANitOr job. I’ve seen a country sub i frequent goes from 4 digit to 6 digit in the span of 6 years, it’s a lot of works. Also sub like r/projectzomboid is established by the company and mods are paid position, getting kick out is…weird lol.

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        The issue is, because it’s “understandable”, it’s also what gives spez the power here. If they weren’t willing to go all the way, they needn’t have bothered with the blackout at all. There was never any actual hope spez would change his mind from a 2 day blackout, anyone that knows anything about how he’s handled things in the past should have known this. This was always going to be a standoff.

        Besides, after everything spez has done, these mods shouldn’t want to be modding for the site anymore. Spez has displayed a level of malice and disrespect for everyone, especially them. Why give him free labor?

        That’s all it is. Every minute you spend moding reddit is polishing the investment you will never see a single dime of. Spez is going to get a good deal of money off you while spitting on you, and you will get nothing but saliva. Continuing to mod there is an acceptance of that.

        Also, let’s be real, this isn’t the end of it. Reddit will continue to get worse as Spez continues down the Musk-path. Users already can’t block certain advertising accounts; I promise you a day is coming when mods won’t be able to stop them in their own communities if they decide to post there. Mods will be forced to make their communities adhere to even stricter “ad friendly” content guidelines, just like YouTube. Etc etc, on and on, ad infinitum. Why stay there for all that?

        This is the time to leave, to find a new place to start your communities again, get in early and find places as mods around here.

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            Money and fame make you fucked in the head.

            Have you noticed that all of those loud doomers are the rich Silicon Valley type? Him and Sam Altman and Musk et al. I mostly think that their main product is not tech, but fear, so they can sell themselves as the Messiahs of the unwashed masses and the only people responsible enough to control their technology.

            These tech people really need to read more sci-fi, even their delusional doomer scenarios are just so unimaginative.

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              That’s pretty evident given that they don’t actually produce anything themselves. Musk’s not smart, he’s not even a halfway good leader. He can’t even do the shitty things without relying on others like the local governments to let him break unions or whatever. That’s just the billionaire way, they’re all fully reliant on others and the only reason we’d let them be in charge of anything is because, for some vague reason, we think they should be.

              If ya can’t be good without cheating, ya aren’t that good.

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            That article certainly confirms all of my suspicions about the kind of (crappy, only in it for himself) person stevie is.

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          “Every minute you spend moding reddit is polishing the investment you will never see a single dime of. Spez is going to get a good deal of money off you while spitting on you, and you will get nothing but saliva”

          That’s why I MANUALLY(R***** won’t care deleting, cause those are, of course, their source for investment, so only I have to) delete all my posts, comments, history, profile and account including disjoining communities and connections (takes time 😮‍💨 but at least relieved from fear), forever and tough (let it go🎤🎵🎶), so that, the ungrateful head won’t ever milk anymore information I had put.

          Information(data stored on databases) has made their success and profit(of course necessary but became greedy), and now they disgrace and maltreat the ones who’d helped the site flourished to become a wonderful world we’d ever wanted.

          I won’t allow them to exploit any information from me whether personally, actually or technically (even a short comment or pic or data or a bit of silly word) for malice with AI coming(already here happening) to Internet.

          Do to do fair action.

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            I think you’re reading too much into it. Active users is where the money is, not outdated data. Just dont login or otherwise engage with reddit -that’s what hurting them in the long run

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        I’d heard of Lemmy and wanted to switch for at least a couple of years now, but without a critical mass of other people to post content there was no point. I’m excited that it’s finally a viable community!

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    they didn’t follow Reddit’s “Moderator Code of Conduct”, here’s a summarized version for anyone who wants to take their place:

    Rule 1: Suck Steve Huffman’s dick.

    Rule 2: Suck u/spez’s dick.

    Rule 3: Suck it all the way to the balls.

    Rule 4: Suck it like it is the most delicious shit in the world.

    *New rules:

    Rule 6: You are not allowed to put anything other than Steve Huffman’s or u/spez’s dick in your mouth.

    Rule 7: Pay Steve Huffman and u/spez 20 million dollars a year each for sucking their dicks.

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    Reddit is going to do whatever the fuck it wants and will gladly fuck over the mods and users in the name of shareholder interests. These actions are chilling for anyone still considering building a community using Reddit.

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    “You have to do what the users want, unless the users don’t agree with us.” -Reddit admin.

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    All I have to say about this is that this was a blessing in disguise for me. I’ve never heard of the fediverse until this Reddit fiasco happened. I’m having a lot better time here being part of something new and it feels good to start fresh.

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      Same. I’ve been diving into Linux and open source and self hosting lately anyway, and at the same time you’re telling me open source social media is a real thing and gaining in popularity? Count me in.

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    There needs to be a massive resignation of reddit moderators.

    If reddit refuses to hear the mod’s voice, why would anyone give them their labour for free?

    Let the power-tripping mods stay, and let the sane mods come to other platforms. Let the site go to shit or make Reddit spend millions investing in its own moderation team.

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      I closed down my subs and moved here and started new ones. I’m not looking back. My subs were only moderated by me, so they can hire someone if they want to open them up again.

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        I was still popping last week, but its all but slowed to a trickle at this point. Reddit fucking sucks today, and I say that as a 12 year user who thought it sucked 3 years ago.

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          Yes. 16 year Reddit user here. The last pieces of the puzzle with themes and moving to lemm.ee are falling into place for me. Lemmy’s front page is now more interesting than Reddit. Very much reminds me of the Reddit I joined. Way more intelligent and topical.

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    Steve Huffman is pissing all over Aaron Schwartz’s grave, and completely abandoning the ideals that was once a foundation of Reddit. Reddit was originally open source, Aaron died in 2013, and by 2017, Reddit had abandoned the open source / community philosophy entirely.

    Never forget Aaron Schwartz.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

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      This is the main reason I haven’t been back to reddit since this shit began. All of this goes against the original ethos of Reddit that made me join and is a disrespect to all of the people who made reddit what it is. It disrespects the users, the volunteer moderators, the app developers, and the old employees. Most especially, though, it disrespects Aaron and, if I’m not mistaken, Alexis.

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      I remember when Ellen Pao was the nightmare and spez wasn’t yet perceived as the fuck he actually is. Different times, I guess the devil you know is better sometimes. Otherwise you get spez, fuck spez.

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      As a computer nerd I never knew about a lot of what this wiki article described, and I’m something of a news junkie to boot. It was a great read.

      From the wiki article…

      Swartz wrote in his Guerilla Open Access Manifesto:[47]

      The world’s entire scientific … heritage … is increasingly being digitized and locked up by a handful of private corporations…

      And interesting quote, in light of the current situation going on at Reddit right now.

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    I was going to wait until the 29th to erase my content and delete my account, just in case the board woke up from their torpor, decided to stop the hemorrhaging and remove Spez… but now that Reddit is violating their own TOS commitments, and I just got my personal data download request filled… I guess I’m starting now.

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        Notes on PDS:

        • It goes too fast and most of its edit operations are rejected by Reddit’s rate limiter, so each run will be roughly 5% successful. Several forks fix the issue by introducing a delay, so make sure to use one of those or make your own.

        • Reddit restores comments and revert edits at random. Maybe due to some backup restore due to all the drama. I re-run PDS every day.

        • Deleted comments can be read and restored by mods. Edited comments make the original comment unavailable.