Not really “powertripping”. Just pathetic. Consider this a notice to avoid feddit.org… I’ve unsubbed and blocked the instance.

We can’t dehumanize fascists for their choice to dehumanize everyone for things outside their control though, because that would be mean, and hurt their sociopath feefees!

Europe stool idly by throughout the 1930’s “tolerating” fascism, and the Nazi’s killed over 100 million people. Don’t make the same mistake as the radical centrists of history. Fascists will not afford you the same tolerance or courtesy.

    • friendlymessage@feddit.org
      27·
      5 days ago

      Can you be less annoying? No one owes you anything here.

      You are misrepresenting the facts here. Nobody said that calling Nazis pieces of shit is actionable under German law. That’s not the problem. The post specifically states that “Nazi lives don’t matter”, questioning a person’s right to life is dehumanizing and might very well break German law. I’m not a lawyer, so I’m not gonna quote specific case law but if I were an admin, I’d also would err on the side of caution here.

      • FelixCress@lemmy.world
        8·
        5 days ago

        Can you be less annoying? No one owes you anything here.

        Can you go and kindly shag yourself? No one asks you to answer here.

        Furthermore, you don’t have a clue how logic works, do you? If someone claims the comment has been removed due to German law, it is on them to prove it.

          • FelixCress@lemmy.world
            5·
            5 days ago

            Well done, perfectly logical analysis of my last comment. Now try to apply the same to the entire thread.

            • friendlymessage@feddit.org
              8·
              5 days ago

              Oh my god, do you seriously think you can analyse laws and case law of a different country in a different language if we’re just gonna link the articles?

              Well, if you like you can read §111 Strafgesetzbuch but in German legalese and not in a google translated version please. To see how this law is interpreted, you could read this relevant court decision: https://openjur.de/u/2271522.html

              The court opinion is interesting, because the posters were lawful because they wrote “Nazis töten.” and not “Nazis töten!” which leads to the posters not being actionable. Do you see the difference? Do you understand the fine line the party “Die Partei” walked here?

              • FelixCress@lemmy.world
                2·
                5 days ago

                The court opinion is interesting, because the posters were lawful because they wrote “Nazis töten.” and not “Nazis töten!” which leads to the posters not being actionable. Do you see the difference?

                Yes, honey. First version is the opinion, second is a call to kill nazis.

                Now, do you have anything relevant to this particular situation? I mean ANYTHING applicable HERE? Otherwise I call bullshit - I can call nazis pieces of shit as much as I want without breaking a single German law.

                • friendlymessage@feddit.org
                  8·
                  5 days ago

                  Close but no. As I said, you’re not actually qualified to discuss with the adults especially if you can’t see how this is relevant here.

                • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org
                  2·
                  4 days ago

                  I can call nazis pieces of shit as much as I want without breaking a single German law.

                  If you don’t know anything about the laws of a different country you should probably just shut the hell up. Even if you apply critical thinking you should get that insulting someone is illegal. Since youre going to ask anyway:

                  § 185 StGB

                  The offence is punishable by a custodial sentence of up to one year or a monetary penalty and, if the offence is committed publicly, in a meeting, by disseminating content (Section 11 (3)) or by means of an assault, by a custodial sentence of up to two years or a monetary penalty.

                  In terms of why the original comment breaks German law and therefore got rightfully deleted see my other comment:

                  Nothing easier than that: Art 130 StGB

                  Anyone who, in a manner likely to disturb the public peace,
                  1.
                  incites hatred against a national, racial, religious or ethnic group, against sections of the population or against an individual because of their membership of a designated group or a section of the population, incites violence or arbitrary measures, or
                  2.
                  attacks the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously denigrating or slandering a designated group, parts of the population or an individual because of their membership of a designated group or part of the population,

                  The Post was in A Manner to disturb the public by being a public post. It attacks the human dignity by dehumanising a group based on their world view. Under current German law this is incitement to people.

                  • FelixCress@lemmy.world
                    2·
                    5 days ago

                    Can you explain what you mean?

                    Yes, sweetie.

                    You are asking me to search for probably non-existent section of German criminal law forbidding public from calling nazis worthless piece of shit.

                    At no point in this thread did anyone quote the actual law, including the guy few comments above this one. You keep commenting third time about pasting into Google - well suit yourself and do that.

                    Furthermore, it is on the person claiming existence of such law to give a source, not on me to disprove it - that is basic logic.

                    So, since you are so adamant, are you able to give some legal source, with quote, referring to a specific situation here?

      • FelixCress@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 days ago

        Constitution is not a criminal law so no. But someone else already quoted criminal law which at a very stretch may be applicable here.

        • MissGutsy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          4·
          14 hours ago

          Yes, but these are probably also an extend/criminal law implementation of this constitutional law. Also you would still break the law, even if you couldn’t get punished for it. Something you don’t want to host on german servers.

          To contextualize my original comment a bit more and explain how these things work over here: you can already get sued for just insulting somebody. I remember a case a few years ago where somebody called a right wing politician a “Hurensohn” (son of a whore) and got his house raided by police. Getting sued (especially by politicians) for insults isn’t unlikely in germany. The platform hosting that content can also get in trouble for it. OP apparently talked about a politician, who could try and sue in Germany. Since OP is probably not from there, the server owners will get in trouble instead. All that to say: this form of moderation is legally necessary in Germany. You can dislike this and I agree with you, but it’s not something that’s going to change. It doesn’t mean that the mods are supporting fascism, as so many are seemingly claiming. Feddit.org is a rather left instance (in Germany we’d say “linksgrün versifft”) and they are definitely not trying to shield nazis, they just try to follow the local law to prevent getting sued

        • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org
          3·
          4 days ago

          This is true.

          The first article of our constitution is like all of our criminal law packed into one sentence. Most of our criminal law is just specifying how violating the dignity of humans gets punished. So while in theory he was not wrong with that this is against our constitution this is not how a judge would argue.

    • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      5 days ago

      You could copy and paste that chunk of text in to a thing called a “search engine” and if it exists outside of that comment you’ll find out where.

      Just a thought.