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Removed Comment Did nothing wrong by sunzu2 reason: Rule against wrongful advocacy
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Banned sunzu2 from the community Ask Lemmy reason: Will not tolerate blind alignment with Luigi Mangione expires: in 3 days

Alright good folk, what’s your take here.

      • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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        6 hours ago

        Seems like another mod took things a step further than I did. I don’t blame them, although I simply locked the discussion.

        • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com
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          6 hours ago

          you literally permabanned me because I said luigi then mentioned you have a bad source, lol. Can you power trip less?

          • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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            6 hours ago

            …as opposed to you outright making it explicit your aim was violence?

            It would be one thing if people complained about moderation but were fully transparent about all the things that went on from their end.

            • sunzu2@thebrainbin.orgOP
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              5 hours ago

              That was a bait though and he never explicitly called for violence.

              Why are mods so inclined to waste their time doing this?

              Hmmm

              • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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                5 hours ago

                Even though he says so in the screenshot that’s right there?

                And why do you call it bait like that’s a plus?

                • sunzu2@thebrainbin.orgOP
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                  5 hours ago

                  What does he actually say?

                  Mod said violence and he made a cheeky retort. Them he got sanctioned. That’s what a bait looks like. Mod behavior was in bad faith here.

                  I will let others make their judgement call but this is a common tactic used by mods on world to censor unsanctioned opinions.

                  The speech in question didn’t rise to threat of violence, just memeing Luigi. Y’all trying to make it into something it really wasn’t to justify censorship.

                  Their house and their rules but people should be aware what they are dealing with. Seed lemmy.world is bad for free speech and hard hitting discussions that we as society face. Only neo liberal agenda is permitted. Classic wolf in sheep coat issue.

                  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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                    5 hours ago

                    When a conflict is being resolved, the message, the intent, and the context are taken into consideration. So suppose you have someone “bait” and cause it to slowly escalate into something that breaks both TOS and several places’ laws/rules and you do something about it, only for the same exact “bait” to show up elsewhere verbatim, initially with good faith taken into consideration but then with the “baiter” revealing he fully intends the thing the people enforcing the rules fear in the first place (which, yes, if you look at what happened, entailed the violence you are denying), ruling out any hope for intent, all while everyone is piling up on a thread that has little to do with the topic they are being passionate about in the first place. What, then, do you expect would happen?

                    “Free speech” is seldom considered to encompass conspiracy or encouragement/incitement to engage in lawbreaking behavior, both of which are against said laws in even the most free places. At that point, someone might as well argue spying on people is free speech, based on the same “everything goes” mindset that goes into the topic, but then (emphasis on “then”) you run into the people who cite their freedoms while invalidating the law saying they have boundaries on what they consider to qualify.