And apparently, also when you think that ā€˜Theyā€™ is a perfectly serviceable gender-neutral singular pronoun, but are willing to use other pronouns if asked to.

EDIT: Other removable offenses on Blahaj now include questioning mod/admin decisions and quoting the modlog as a reason why youā€™re leaving.

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    ah, i apologize. i do admit that i used language there that slightly misrepresented my meaning, and i see your confusion. this inclarity is my fault.

    i was using the term ā€œsadpostā€ in reference to whatever content that was removed, whether comments or posts. i see that you interpreted the ā€œpostā€ in sadpost to mean reddit-style top-level posts only, where my tendency is to interpret the ā€œpostā€ to mean any content, i.e. the act of hitting ā€œpost.ā€

    nevertheless my point stands. you created a space which attracts the very drama blahaj is founded around avoiding.

    itā€™s like you went into r/GirlsWithHugePussies (SFW šŸ˜„ and very cute, itā€™s clothed women holding big pet cats) and posted comments saying, ā€œsorry yā€™all i have to leave because of the rule that you canā€™t comment about the womenā€™s bodies.ā€

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      i was using the term ā€œsadpostā€ in reference to whatever content that was removed, whether comments or posts. i see that you interpreted the ā€œpostā€ in sadpost to mean reddit-style top-level posts only, where my tendency is to interpret the ā€œpostā€ to mean any content, i.e. the act of hitting ā€œpost.ā€

      So, letā€™s go over this

      You created a space primed for harrassment, dude. Intentionally or not. Youā€™ve seen the descent into bigotry comments sections like those go to? You made a live drama trap for more of the exact behavior admins have the unique goal of fighting to combat. You might as well have titled your sadpost ā€œHey guys, hereā€™s a space to do the harrassment this entire community is designed around avoiding also Iā€™m leaving.ā€

      The mods arenā€™t obligated to host open honeypots like that, especially not from users self-admittedly on the way out. If it wasnā€™t intentional, I hope this helps clears things up! Cuz wow.

      So I ā€˜created spaceā€™, something not generally associated with comments, implicitly enabling ā€˜comments sectionsā€™ in the ā€˜sadpostā€™ which might as well have had a ā€˜titleā€™ of (insert the title you made here) despite the fact that comments donā€™t have titles.

      So you managed to use a whole hell of a lot of language implying that you meant a top-level post, and an argument centered around the space provided by a top-level post, but really what you meant were the comments. Wow! Itā€™s amazing that you managed to accidentally use all that language in such a specific and logical way that fits with your previous arguments made, but suddenly you clarified that DEFINITELY wasnā€™t what you meant when it was called out that it makes no factual goddamn sense.

      nevertheless my point stands. you created a space which attracts the very drama blahaj is founded around avoiding.

      There are two places where my comments were. One, in the announcement by one of the mods of 196 bringing attention to the rule clarification. The rest, in a post citing the modlog that itself, was not removed.

      In what possible fucking way were either of those ā€˜creating spaceā€™ for harassment? In the former, space is already created without the comment; in the latter, space is already created without the comment. If it was about creating the space for harassment to potentially occur, even assuming you were talking about my comments previously, how would that in any conceivable way reconcile with the fact that the post, a much bigger space for ā€˜harassmentā€™, was left up?

      Your latest argument makes zero goddamn sense in light of the evidence, just like the rest.

      itā€™s like you went into r/GirlsWithHugePussies (SFW šŸ˜„ and very cute, itā€™s clothed women holding big pet cats) and posted comments saying, ā€œsorry yā€™all i have to leave because of the rule that you canā€™t comment about the womenā€™s bodies.ā€

      Or if itā€™s like I was posting to GirlsWithHugePussies for over a year with no problem, and then the INSTANCE of GirlsWithHugePussies clarifies that ā€œDogs are pussies tooā€. The comm of GirlsWithHugePussies mentions this, and when I comment to GirlsWithHugePussies ā€œThatā€™s unfortunate, I donā€™t have any desire to stick around guys/gals, sorryā€, itā€™s removed for ā€˜gatekeeping pussiesā€™.

      And rather than dispute it, because ultimately I have neither power nor desire to influence the instanceā€™s admins, I simply leave and bitch about my comments being removed for ā€˜gatekeepingā€™ on a comm about bitching about moderator/admin actions.

      Then a whole bunch of defenders of the instance come in and say, in this bitching thread on a bitching comm on and instance entirely separate from GirlsWithHugePussiesā€™ instance, that Iā€™m felinephobic for not acknowledging dogs as pussies, and one commenter in particular claims that I was acting ā€˜entitledā€™ for daring to mention leaving in the process of leaving, claiming that my anodynely worded original comments were actually ā€˜not niceā€™ enough, and that if I wanted to avoid a removal, I shouldā€™ve just worded them nicer, and that, furthermore, I was ā€˜creating spaceā€™ for harassment by saying farewell to a comm Iā€™d been posting on for a long time whilst having any reaction to the rule clarification other than utter bootlicking sycophancy, since ā€œItā€™s not for me, I understand, but Iā€™m leavingā€ was apparently too hostile.

      That put it into perspective?

      Doubtful, considering what lengths youā€™ve went through to avoid any troubling thoughts in your head in the course of this conversation.

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        So you acknowledge that you left the community simply because the Admin said to report and block disengage suspected trolling rather than engaging in harrassment? Thatā€™s so sad :(

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          So you acknowledge that you left the community simply because the Admin said to report and block suspected trolling rather than engaging in harrassment? Thatā€™s so sad :(

          No, not even close to what was said, and thatā€™s very much the response I expected after seeing your behavior in this argument. Thereā€™s nothing even vaguely resembling that in the comment youā€™re supposedly responding to. As usual, you ignore the evidence and arguments presented and make shit up.

          Although I suppose I should thank you, since this reply clarifies that itā€™s not incompetence, but explicitly bad faith youā€™re arguing in.

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            edit: i think i misunderstood pugā€™s comment so putting my response behind a spoiler till i get confirmation sorry for any confusion

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            No, not even close to what was said

            So, if I show you evidence that that was said, you would consider amending your understanding?

            promise?

            promise ?

            ā€œTrolls, spammers, twitter users, it doesnā€™t matter who they are, your options are to respect their pronouns, or to not engage with them. [ā€¦] This isnā€™t a free reign for trolls and spammers. The rules still apply.ā€œ ada in the body text of the c/main post

            its pretty close to what i said. reporting and/or blocking are indeed prominent tools in ā€œnot engaging with them,ā€ i will apologize for using non-specific language there. iā€™ll edit my comment.

            my statement ammended: she said ā€œdo not engage if you canā€™t not do validity discourse or misgenderā€ which is such a tiny ask, and yet for some reason thatā€™s a end-all situation for you

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              So, if I show you evidence that that was said, you would consider amending your understanding?

              Not even close to what was said in my argument, as the next sentence very clearly indicates

              Thereā€™s nothing even vaguely resembling that in the comment youā€™re supposedly responding to.

              An utterly moronic attempt.

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                No, not even close to what was said

                Oh can you clear up the grammar here? I think weā€™re talking past each otherā€”let me course correct. Did you mean ā€œwhat I saidā€ or ā€œwhat Ada said?ā€ (or another acting party maybe?) I admit if I got the wrong meaning from that sentence my response doesnā€™t make sense, and in that case my apologies!