• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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    8 days ago

    This brings me back to a point I keep on making; I really do not care if the vast majority of people vote selfishly. In fact, I want you to vote selfishly.

    Just for the love of God be smart about it.

    You’re hurting? You’re feeling economic pain? Absolutely take those feelings into the ballot box with you.

    But why in the absolute fuck would you vote for the guy who has promised to make everything more expensive?

    The problem is not that people are selfish. Selfish is fine, selfish is good. We can work with selfish. But what we need, desperately, is to teach people how to act effectively in their own self interest, instead of being lead around by the nose by billionaires.

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      7 days ago

      That starts at the formative years. You can’t all the sudden instill some new sense of self in a 30 something year old man, grinding away at work for the last 10 years, only to have enough money to come home, drink a six pack and watch the sports package or play whatever latest video game.

      In order to be smart about it, they have to take the steps and spend the time to educate themselves.

      Maybe if you go around the billionaires and make that easier, cheaper, faster or more enjoyable you stand a chance… but I have no idea what that even looks like. Or how you prevent billionaires from spoiling it.

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        7 days ago

        I think there are ways. It really feels to me like the left has left a lot of ground untapped in terms of our messaging.

        There’s a lot of leftist ideas that, when presented without an explicitly “Leftist” context, really appeal to right wing voters.

        Like, when did unions become a political thing? How the fuck did we lose them on unions? And Jesus Christ, we’re talking about the party of “rugged individualists”, how are we not selling them on solar power?

        “Still suckling on the teat of some oil baron? Damn son, I get all my power from God’s beautiful sun and wind, and can’t no one take it away from me.”

        “What’s that you say, you gotta work sick because you’re too pussy to tell your California elite CEO to go fuck himself? Sounds like you need a union son.”

        Like, am I fucking crazy here? How the hell did the American left lose the Midwest when there’s so many ways to appeal to these people, if someone would just try to actually meet them where they are.