• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    20 days ago

    Her ideology is just a mishmash of moral positions, I understand that just fine. I just don’t respect it.

    The other candidates want to do genocide and start a world war, though, which makes them comparable to Hitler.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        20 days ago

        I consider her policies moralist, I don’t think she has a theoretical foundation.

        Many of her policies would be at home in a leftwing government, like the jobs guarantee and debt cancellation and the rights to food/housing/healthcare, but that doesn’t make them Leftist. These are just moral positions. I think they’re good, sure, but I don’t think she has a real plan to make them happen.

        Workers’ party or bust.

        • null@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          20 days ago

          None of those policies sound particularly far away from what Biden/Harris have done / want to do. Student/medical debt cancellation being the obvious one. Job growth under Biden being another. Harris has also recently spoken in favor of unions/collective bargaining as of late. Harris also co-sponsored Bernie’s Medicare for all.

          Is Stein to the Left of Harris? Sure. Is she far to the Left of Harris? No.

          The fact is, the ideological gap between Harris and Stein is way smaller than the one between Harris and Trump.

          But you want to disingenuously paint Harris and Trump as virtually identical because of a single foreign policy issue that you lot can pretend to clutch your pearls over and virtue signal about until your lungs give out.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            20 days ago

            Student/medical debt cancellation being the obvious one.

            They have no plans to cancel all debt. I don’t consider ticky-tacky piecemeal debt “”“forgiveness”“” to be anything like full debt abolition.

            Job growth under Biden being another

            Not growth, literally a jobs guarantee. That means full employment, which is nothing like Biden/Harris focusing on private economic growth.

            Harris has also recently spoken in favor of unions/collective bargaining as of late.

            They broke the railroad strike, and Biden is to the left of Harris on unions anyway.

            Harris also co-sponsored Bernie’s Medicare for all.

            She’s abandoned it.

            Is Stein to the Left of Harris? Sure. Is she far to the Left of Harris? No.

            She’s doing genocide and promises to do more, she’s promising to put Republicans in her administration, she’s a cop.

            Right of center at best.

            • null@slrpnk.net
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              20 days ago

              Now imagine being so ignorant as to not see how a similar comparison on policy between Harris and Trump would put Harris far to the Left of Trump.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                20 days ago

                I already acknowledged she’s slightly to the left of Trump. That doesn’t change the fact that “closer” is doing a lot of work.

                A pile of shit is closer to food than a rock. Would you eat it?

                • null@slrpnk.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  20 days ago

                  Again, to say Stein is far to the Left of Harris, but Harris is only slightly to the Left of Trump is ignorant at best, disingenuous at worst.

                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    20 days ago

                    Did even you read my responses to your specific examples? I think I demonstrated pretty handily that Harris is center-right.

                    She’s not for Medicare for All, she’s not for universal debt abolition, she’s not for a jobs guarantee, she’s willing to break strikes for the sake of the capitalist economy, and most importantly she’s a militaristic freak that wants to further increase funding for the military and give unlimited support to Israel as it does genocide and drags us into WW3

                    She’s a 2000s era Republican.