• SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Obama’s policies were bad for all Americans, not just Black Americans

    not a great counterargument, I gotta say,

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      1 month ago

      It is to your claim that he specifically failed black americans.

      And it’s also your move to prove that Obamas policies were actually the issue, because similar things happened all over the world, and a government can only do so much.

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        1 month ago

        he specifically failed black americans.

        I said that he failed Black Americans, I did not say “specifically”. You imagined that I said that because it was a way to move the goalposts to invalidate my point without having to engage critically with what I was saying.

        Barack Obama does not give a shit about the black community. He does not give a shit about working class Americans. He didn’t even give a shit about his own campaign staff in the end, kicking them to the curb as soon as they had fulfilled their purpose to hang out with celebrities. These aren’t unique traits to Barack Obama, but they are nevertheless an accurate assessment of him.

        And it’s also your move to prove that Obamas policies were actually the issue, because similar things happened all over the world, and a government can only do so much.

        I would agree that McCain would have failed the American people in the exact same way, but your insistence that “a government can only do so much” is false, because even in just the history of 20th century America we have an example of the government doing far more than it managed to do in 2009, as was pointed out by my earlier source.

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          No, you didn’t say “specifically”, you just completely imply it if you word it like that. Stop playing wordgames please…

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            1 month ago

            The thread was about black men, so I started the thread by talking about Obama’s effect on black men. I didn’t imply anything except in your mind.

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      2008 was bad for all Americans.

      This is a classic “blame the Democrats for the mess created by Republicans” right wing tactic. Republicans shit their diapers, then get voted out, then immediately start complaining that it smells awful and why would the Democrats do this