Watch: Mics muted over Vance's Springfield migrant claims
www.bbc.com
It comes after Vance was fact-checked on a statement about "millions of illegal immigrants".
  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    68·
    2 months ago

    Oh the mods came ready. They did fact checking and took no shit. It was glorious to watch.

    • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
      40·
      2 months ago

      No.

      Its a stalemate. JD Vance accomplished what he needed to rally Republicans to this cause. Which is to shit on the moderators and make it sound like Walz and the Moderators are in cahoots. Worse, this kind of meta-debate is on-brand for the Republican strategy.

      This is why fact-checking is so hard, because when you do it wrong it solidifies a huge number of Americans against the fact-checker and can even rally them to JD Vance’s side.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        27·
        2 months ago

        has CBS explained why the moderators intervened and fact checked him? I’m going to assume some laywers stepped in and said, “We can’t air that. We’ll be sued to oblivion.”

        but also, like, Saying “we’re not” and then doing it certainly feeds into the narrative that they were trying to help Walz. at least in republican minds.

      • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        2 months ago

        Fact checking isn’t hard if you go by facts. Your response about ‘sounds like’ is contradictory is so many ways

        • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          2 months ago

          Fact checking isn’t hard if you go by facts.

          For fucks sake did you not exist between the years 2016 and 2020?

          My mom literally still thinks Obama is a Muslim.

            • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              26·
              2 months ago

              It sounds like your mom’s an idiot

              I don’t need to defend my mom against internet strangers, but I assure you she’s not dumb. She’s not even the most brainwashed within my family with regards to Republican talking points. She’s one of the more reasonable ones.

              Are you seriously so fucking ignorant of America that you don’t know of how a Obama-birther thinks? Holy shit man. Are you young? Please tell me you’re some kind of Zoomer or something who is new to this politics thing.

              At least my generation is mostly about us talking about Birthers / Q / Boogaloos / Manosphere bullshitters in our families (even otherwise reasonable people who have drunk the Kool-Aid), and suddenly I come across someone who is somehow completely ignorant of what is at play or what is at stake here. I almost envy your naivete.

              • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                13·
                2 months ago

                He maligned my mom because he’s ignorant of the Birtherism thing. Its… fine. I like that kind of optimism actually. It gives me hope for the next generation.

                2016 was a long time ago. Its good to see these issues being forgotten. Lets not go back there, vote Kamala. We’re not going back.

                • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                  7·
                  2 months ago

                  It’s cool to love and defend your mom, friend. Sorry I wandered into this one. I love my mom and respect her, actually we agree on politics and such, but I do not enjoy her company. Familial piety and all that.

        • Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
          12·
          2 months ago

          Oh sweetie. I’m sorry to ask this,but where the fuck have you been the past 8~9 years!? C’mon dude. We’re in over our heads inside la-la land; where you can just make up whatever you want and hordes of people believe it because they want to. Facts don’t matter if you don’t want them to.

          • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            Well no shit. You still have to say something. Even if you question if there is a soul on the receiving end

  • Myxomatosis@lemmy.world
    47·
    2 months ago

    “You childless moderators contribute nothing of value to society!” -Vance said in response, mascara bleeding down his cheeks.

    • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      He definitely was not wearing mascara. He may have been wearing extra makeup to occlude his dreamy eyelashes, wait, I thought this was a funny way to go. These fascists such as Vance and Trump hate freedom. They hate personal autonomy.

  • pjwestin@lemmy.world
    16·
    2 months ago

    I thought Vance won the debate (mostly through Gish galloping), but I’m not sure it’s going to matter. The big moment of the evening was him being muted for aggressively talking over two women, and it wasn’t a great look. I’m sure it played well to Trump’s base of incels who hate journalists, but I doubt anyone else found it very appealing.

    • finestnothing@lemmy.world
      18·
      2 months ago

      I loved that they repeatedly tried to get him to stop talking so they could talk but he kept going, got muted, and you could still hear him continuing to talk in the background, and when he realized he was muted he got louder in the background to try to be heard by more microphones anyway

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
        6·
        2 months ago

        Yeah, considering how bad their campaign did with abortion, cat ladies, and misogynistic bullshit, my gut says this moment did some damage.

  • Haus@kbin.earth
    12·
    2 months ago

    Usernames that make you go “Wait, what?” and then transport you back in time 30 years.

  • ATDA@lemmy.world
    4·
    2 months ago

    The thought process of " I’m not going to be fact checked so I’ll just say the same shit anyway."

    It’s wild how blatant they are being to get clips for their brain rot base to eat up.