• EatATaco@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      In another thread about Grindr going down during the RNC convention, the general opinion is that they are repressed homosexuals and that is why they are fascists. I think Pete hits on, and you sum up, the real reason: some rich gay people feel insulated by their wealth from the problems that republicans might introduce, and think adding even more wealth is the way to go.

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        It isn’t as though conservatives limit their derision to homosexuality. Any kind of sexual promiscuity is cause for condemnation and persecution if you’re poor. This isn’t homosexuality as taboo, this is sexuality as a luxury reserved for the wealthiest and most well-connected.

        FFS, we’ve got video recordings of Donald Trump groping Rudy Giuliani in drag as part of a sketch comedy routine. Lauren Boebert gives handies out at the theater. JD Vance himself is married to a migrant of color. Vanishingly few conservatives seems to mind. This has always been a question of economic privilege, rather than some universal social taboo. Its a tool for Othering the political opposition, not policing the party leadership internally.

        Wealth, along with the benefits of an obsequies mass media and mercenary police force, guarantee you can have all the Burning Man orgy tents you want just so long as you’ve paid off the right people.

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      Nazis, neo or otherwise, think of being gay as a mental illness. Being a billionaire might insulate Thiel from the face eating leopards, but only in so far as the leopards have other targets. Neo Nazis are going to clean up house of minorities and gays once they have sufficient legal foothold.

      As for conservatives, they don’t care about how much money someone else has, but rather how much they can use someone else’s money.

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        Being a billionaire might insulate Thiel from the face eating leopards, but only in so far as the leopards have other targets.

        The Catholics might think they can preach against homosexuality, but eventually they’re going to discover that their congregants won’t put up with all the homosexuality in the priesthood. Maybe not today, but possibly within the next 1500 years. And then won’t they fell bad about what they’ve done.

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    Its a shame for Thiel, that insulation via wealth only goes so far. Once oppression has been codified into law, and most of the streets have been sterilized of “undesirables”, the machine will drink its own juice and come for him, too.

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      Its a shame for Thiel, that insulation via wealth only goes so far.

      “You’ll get yours in the end” is a prophecy liberals make endless, while plutocrats continue to ignore it without real consequence.

      Once oppression has been codified into law

      Laws Are For Little People. My man Elon Musk should be serving a thousand year consecutive life sentence for the endless string of SEC violations, financial frauds, drug abuses, and sexual assaults he’s committed in the last five years alone. Donald Trump should be on death row. None of these assholes actually get prosecuted for any of this shit, precisely because they’re insulated through their wealth and social connections.

      JD Vance isn’t going to try and throw his sugar daddy under the bus, particularly when Thiel’s fortune is based around his enormous government contracts for mass surveillance via Palantir. It would be just shy of trying to pick a fight with Eric Prince (America’s premiere international warlord for hire) or Gregory Hayes (CEO of Raytheon, the company that makes all the high performance missiles, rockets, and smart bombs).

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        I’m sure Ernst Röhm thought the same thing. Inevitably, the alliance of convenience runs its course and the fascists decide it’s easier if they’re dead.

        Dead men can’t hire lawyers to defend their stock portfolios, after all.

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          I’m sure Ernst Röhm thought the same thing

          If you need to go back 90 years to make a point, it might be a weak one.

          Reagan had gay members of his administration while he joked about the AIDS epidemic.

          Nixon had gay men in his administration, a fact he complained about on tape.

          Hoover crossdressed as head of the FBI, and he was at the heart of a fascist white terror during the 1950s.

          It’s strongly believed that James Buchanan was in a relationship with Senator Rufus King, while President.

          Reactionary attitudes towards sex did not seem to affect any of these economic elites.

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        This is real life, anything could happen. The rich get fucked just as much as they get away. There will be no warning. Even for those like Thiel if Project 2025 was fully implemented. He would automatically be branded a pedophile and receive the death penalty. Don’t think they wouldn’t be quick to consume each other. The vacuum of power would be ripe for anyone remaining. We’re getting to the point where the greedy must devour each other to grow.

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          The rich get fucked just as much as they get away.

          The rich get fucked way less than what they get away with. That’s why you’ve got prisons overflowing with low-income felons while everyone from Donald Trump to OJ Simpson seem immune to prosecution.

          Even for those like Thiel if Project 2025 was fully implemented.

          A big facet of 2025 is the way it immunizes members of the political elite from the policing they intend to inflict on everyone else. The “Freedom Cities” (often referred to as Charter Cities in other libertarian wet-dream proposals) revolve around granting dictatorial control in municipal districts to a handful of powerful property owners, fully exempt from a normal democratic process. The police, the judges, the prosecutors - they’re all just employees of these oligarchs. In the same way that a CEO isn’t threatened by the HR department, a guy like Thiel granted his own private fief through a California “Freedom City” charter would be immune to whatever anti-LGBTQ proposal Mike Johnson cooked up in the House.

          The vacuum of power would be ripe for anyone remaining.

          The vacuum is being filled by these techbros.