What you want is a seedbox with the *arrr suite of apps

Moloko (and Róisín Murphy’s older solo stuff)

No this person is terrible and you should cut off contact if you can. Confide in a trusted friend/family member.

I’d say that it’s on developers to try. It will take some learning, but that’s just part of developing the capacity

I can see we’re not going to reach an agreement on how to look at this particular instance. Still, I wish you well and I hope people like you and me can find a way to effectively fight fascism going forward.

It’s also the publics job to be informed.

We’d get an informed public if people had enough time, material security, and agency to get involved in politics.

Even if it was identical under harris. It was still better under biden. He wasn’t actively cheering the genocide on etc. And at least gave some appearance of trying to support relief and peace.

This is infuriating. The appearance of trying to support relief and peace? These people’s families are dying. The US is the number one funder and arms dealer to Israel. The few, milquetoast statements Biden/Harris made were only political cover to the overwhelming support for the genocide that the US provided. Look, you don’t have to personally care about this issue beyond appearances if you want, but it is a central issue to voters in a particularly politically-important location.

That you feel no responsibility or remorse. For helping to Usher fascism in. [etc]

Don’t make assumptions: I was not an activist in Michigan. I didn’t tell anyone not to vote for Biden/Harris. I voted for them, even in a place where it doesn’t matter. I’m just a stranger on the internet who is tired of Democrats paying more attention to the right than to, well, even the center, let alone the left. They know that there is no alternative vote for us, so they keep tacking right to try and pick off a few so-called “swing” voters. But, doing that demobilizes their base! You need to get people excited to vote, volunteer, donate, and campaign. It’s basic electoral strategy. They refuse to learn that lesson and so they lose to someone who has a smaller, but rabid base.

Also, why are we focusing on only the Palestinian voters in Michigan as the ones who lost the election when plenty of other voters there and other swing districts also didn’t vote Biden/Harris? Because they’re “supposed to” vote dem? Assumptions like that are part of why the democratic party loses elections to Trump. They made a decision to cater more to pro-Israel voters than voters who wanted to at least halt the genocide, it was an important strategic misstep. Zooming out, why aren’t dems able to contest more districts? There’s plenty of blame to go around.

Finally, if you think this one thing is what ushered fascism in, you haven’t been paying attention to the last 30 years of politics. Trump’s election is not an aberration, it’s an expression of a large and growing right-wing and fascist movement in the US.

She was his VP!

First, it is the job of the political party to convince the voters to vote for them. But even then, we don’t actually know if the outcome for Gaza would be any different under Harris (I’m only referring to the two campaign ads shown, ignore the commentary after). Maybe the Democrats, with an eye toward the next election, could have said “hey we’re gonna lose Michigan unless you take a tougher line with Netanyahu”.

I don’t think it took much of a “masterful play” or much influence at all for the Palestinian and middle eastern origin populations in Michigan to demobilize or protest vote. They had been watching intense and horrific destruction of their families and place of origin for more than a year at that point and they watched Biden, with Harris as VP, transfer weapons and funding to Israel while reiterating their support for Israel and weakly “warning” them about going too far.

It’s a bit infantilizing to say that the Palestinian-Americans “got played”, as if they couldn’t see what was happening in one of the central issues of their lives and make a choice.

“Had been campaigning on” is a joke after Biden spent his term bending over backwards to get weapons and funding to Israel, veto UN resolutions in opposition, and avoid pressuring Netanyahu

The article itself, several paragraphs down, admits you can’t attribute trump’s win to Palestine activists:

"It’s hard to determine just how much of an impact efforts like Uncommitted or Abandon Harris had in the election results. After all, exit polls showed that voters were motivated more by the economy than by foreign policy. But in battleground states with large Arab-American populations, like Michigan, data suggests that the Israel-Hamas conflict turned people away from Harris. In Dearborn, the country’s largest Arab-majority city, election data showed that Trump won 42 percent of the vote while Harris received 36 percent—significantly less than the 69 percent that Biden earned in 2020.

But the activists note that it wasn’t just Dearborn and other Muslim-American enclaves that moved toward Republicans in 2024—nearly every district in the country moved to the right as well."

Organic Maps is a good app that also lets you do some editing. I like the interface better than osmand

I haven’t been a mint user for a while, but the fact that the mint folks specifically release MATE/XFCE versions is a good sign that they are tested for compatibility. You can try those versions on liveusb, too.

I’m guessing here, but the “less terminal needed” parts of Mint are probably specific tools and GUI settings managers they have put together to be more user friendly. if you search something like [name of Mint settings manager or tool] XFCE compatible, you’ll likely get an explanation. You might want to check out their Matrix chat room with specific questions: https://app.element.io/#/room/#linuxmint-space:matrix.org

Mint comes with a few desktop environment/window manager options: https://www.linuxmint.com/download_all.php Cinnamon, MATE, and XFCE. It’s also capable of running KDE and basically any other option, you just have to install it in a slightly more manual way.

There’s nothing inherent to libertarian socialism that makes it especially vulnerable to military opposition. It was just a fact of that particular political/military moment that multiple well-armed and well-financed enemies were highly motivated to destroy them. Any political system can be destroyed if you throw enough tanks at it! That said, the Spanish anarchist forces were known for being very effective and might have won if not for fascist support of their enemies and soviet desires to replace them with bolshevik communism. In Mexico, the Zapatistas are still around, have successfully fought off both cartel and state forces (working together!) in the past.

I’m glad you’re here for a real convo. Sorry if I came off as combative in the OP – I thought that by posting it in this topic that I’d be talking to socialists and that those socialists would already be on board with heavy left critiques of the american constitutional system. I don’t mean to condescend to liberals – shouldn’t have used “libs” I guess – but I think of them, in the US, as primarily just trying to get the democrats back into power and then mostly disengage. The most outspoken of them tend to have much more energy to fight universal healthcare and other the social democratic reforms of a Bernie Sanders rather than actually take aim at the capitalist, state, and other hierarchies making our lives worse. As a result, I don’t believe they can be effective against right wing and fascist elements in the US and feel the need to recruit them to the socialist and anarchist cause.

Glad to. Here are a few to start with:

• https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvwoHdNGq9wUbrwTZ2k8yXE5oABPBQ4NX Here is a playlist of videos covering a bunch of current and recent movements in Latin America. The Zapatistas are particularly awesome!
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAEhRRDvHHQ here’s a whole documentary about what life was like in anarchist parts of Spain between WW1 and WW2. This society was eventually destroyed militarily by a Nazi-supported right-wing dictatorship, rather than any internal weaknesses.
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makhnovshchina Makhnovist Ukraine did a similar thing and was similarly destroyed by various militaries (especially the bolsheviks) in Russia.

Turns out that authoritarians hate democracy!

Your smug, holier-than-thou tone makes me not want to engage with you beyond this comment and makes me wonder how much of a good-faith interaction we’re having. I’ll let you do the rest of the digging if you’re curious about libertarian forms of socialism! This is, after all, [email protected].

You and I can disagree about our minimum level of democracy, but how will we actually change society if we don’t change how the decisions are made in society?

For me, the most possible democracy is when the people affected by a given decision (and only those people) are the ones who make the decision in a way they consider fair (however fair is defined) and are empowered to do what they decided on.

If the same group of people instead choose, via 1 person = 1 vote, one or more among them to make the decision, it’s less democratic in my view, but at least they each had an equal vote.

If the same group of people instead choose, via any voting system that changes 1 person = 1 vote (e.g. x amount of votes for each parcel of land), one or more among them to make the decision, it is even less democratic, because they did not all have an equal vote due to variations in how many people live in each parcel of land.

The current US Constitutional system has us here, between the above example and the below one, because land parcels in large part determine relative voting power and then the electeds make appointments of further decision makers, such as the Supreme Court.

Zero democracy is when the person/people making the decisions are not chosen by the people affected by the decision and the people affected by it have zero say in the decision.

Trump has never won the popular vote. In fact, it’s very common for Presidents to get elected while losing the popular vote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_popular_vote_margin

I think socialists can and should focus the message on issues like healthcare for all, childcare for all, housing, etc., but in order to actually win and protect those gains, you need to have deep, direct democracy in which people have the time and ability to participate in the decision-making that affects their lives. The Consitution (and I would argue representative democracy in general) doesn’t provide that. I won’t go into all of it here, but there are socialist currents like communalism, libertarian socialism (nothing to do with right wing libertarians, they stole that word), and social ecology that discuss alternative decision-making systems.

The supreme court is 9 ppl appointed for life, so that’s antidemocratic. The Senate is 2 ppl per state regardless of population, that’s antidemocratic. Amendments need 3/4 of the States, not people, to go through, that’s antidemocratic. The federalist papers specifically discuss the desire to prevent the people (“the mob” they called us) from having much power.

those are not comments by me

You spent most of your message telling me what I was saying (and getting it 100% wrong)

I think you have me confused with someone else?

I love listening to 4-part interviews before I can take part in a conversation.

It’s what the post is about. Your question is addressed in the content of the post. I know you just wanna bang out a comment real quick and move on, but maybe the discussion would be meaningful if you at least listened to the shorter, 1-part interview.