Imagine looking at this and desperately sanewashing Trump to pretend that he’s not simulating oral sex with his mic at his pathetic rally.

Any questions?

Here’s the post I think Rhaedas is referring to.

Obviously, I am thinking for myself by rejecting your argument that fascism is “not hard right wing”. And you still haven’t provided any sources for your argument. It’s clear to me that fascism is both far-right and authoritarian, and being authoritarian doesn’t prevent fascism from being far-right.

You’re calling fascists “moderate right” and liberal democrats “far-right” because Nazis did some things that you agree with? What exactly did the Nazis do that makes you think fascism is more moderate on the left-right axis than liberal democracy? It looks like you’re either completely ignoring the social policies of fascism, or your understanding of the terms “moderate right” and “far-right” is way out of line with how most people understand them.

I’ll take Wikipedia over a Lemmy comment with no sources that is arguing that fascism is more moderate than it actually is. The Wikipedia articles I linked to are cited, and the citations look very credible to me.

(I’m fully aware of the two-axis political model you mentioned, which is why I distinguished libertarianism from right-wing politics even though libertarians in the U.S. tend to be right-wing.)

Fascism is the dictionary definition of far-right politics. You’d be hard pressed to name a similarly prominent political ideology that is even father to the right than fascism. Likewise, Leninism’s revolutionary ideals place the ideology in the far left, despite its implementations not achieving those ideals. An ideology being authoritarian doesn’t make it moderate on the left-right scale. Instead, the more authoritarian governments tend to be hard left/right instead of moderate left/right.

I have to disagree about right-wing ideology being about “liberty and freedom”. That’s the realm of libertarianism, not right-wing politics. Libertarians in the U.S. tend to be right-wing, but libertarianism and right-wing politics are distinct ideologies. Right-wing politics emphasize traditional values, nationalism, and hierarchial social structures.

Calling Leninism “moderate left” is like calling Project 2025 “moderate right”.

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