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Donnie says a lot of stuff. It comes down to whether you can bank on his hatred of jews vs his hatred of muslims and his love of bribe money. Its some comedic cold comfort to me that a large part of his base are anti semitic white supremacists and they are having a hard time squaring their vote with support for the state of Israel.

Comedy gold, made with the gold tooth fillings of dead gazan civlians. (to be fair, yes-- the dead babies and children are less likely to have fillings)

Do you understand that Blinken is a member of the presidents cabinet and the president can fire anyone in his cabinet if they go rogue from his wishes?

one issue that is 5000 miles away.

What does distance matter? And are all issues the same? mass murder of innocents vs grazing rights on federal lands, equally important in your eyes? Both “single issues”?

she does.

As of september, 61 percent of 335 million Americans want to stop the shipments. https://theintercept.com/2024/09/10/polls-arms-embargo-israel-weapons-gaza/

The problem of the US is that you might lose more voters by dumping Israel than you’d gain by supporting Palestine.

Not really. Jews generally are 1-2 percent of the population, split between dem and repub-- and not all jews beleive in this interpretation of zionism. Much more than half of the 335 million Americans want to at least be neutral in gaza. This would seem to indicate that thered be net votes to be gained by stopping the shipments. The rub is that theres a lot of money behind AIPAC, and usually whoever spends the most wins. It would be rational for Harris to pivot at the last second when money starts to lose its value to the immediate outcome. But it risks the monied donors lining up on the repub side for the next election. AIPAC funds both sides and doesnt care who wins as long as they get to puppet our government.

Did he try? Biden could have cited the Leahy laws any time he wanted, and proclaimed that he beleived genocide was occurring. He did not do that. So I dont beleive he was trying. I think he was pretending.

And it’s fucking fine

This is part of the problem with America. Centrists are so self centered that they will condone mass murder of nameless masses to keep their personal gravy train rolling.

The system itself needs to change.

Maybe these people who are choosing not to vote are explicietly voting to end our system of government. Much the same way the far right is doing, but for different reasons.

And you’ve got harris with full control over where the trolley goes, and a working set of brakes. So its not the trolley problem at all.

the tea aparty didnt seem to be about goals, it was about grievance. Seemed to be the birth of maga. But I admit I wasnt listening to them very closely.

AIPAC has a stranglehold on our entire system of government and it wont let it go or allow that to change. Protest has become meaningless.

The quote I am replying to is at the top of my reply…

stopping shipments is not going to achieve anything. Polling shows its popular

Thats a flat out lie.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/stop-us-arms-transfers-israel/

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/25363

https://www.commondreams.org/news/us-weapons-israel-2667435101

willdo. cheers.

Well she can change her stance on the weapons shipments any time she wants. She keeps losing support every day in the polls, so I suggest she stop digging and try something else. Or she is going to lose. Theres a lot of progressives who will vote for her if she stops the shipments and wont vote for her if she stays the course. This is her choice.

You want to talk to someone about ass logic, talk to her.