Fair enough. I’ve only ever had experience with construction in the SE region (FL, GA, MO, etc). I’ve honestly never even met a farmer. Perhaps it’s different. Or we can’t generalize everyone by absolute statements.

In Florida DeSantis passed a bill this year or last year that made it a crime to drive an illegal to and from work. What happened is a mini-exodus of illegal laborers as they were scared of FL.

Immediately after stage legislature reps basically openly said “don’t worry this law is symbolic please don’t leave”

The anti-immigrant this is mostly a way to rile up their base. Ultimately the GOP (and DNC) have to respect the monied interests. Very large companies who indirectly benefit from illegal labor stand to lose a lot from deporting illegals. Ie AT&T doesn’t hire illegals. But they have a contractor to build a fiber network in a city. That contractor doesn’t hire illegals. But they have a subcontractor who does. When you ripple your way down eventually you have illegals.

Prices for many things will go up for every Americans as well, which is dangerous for politicians.

If price of labor goes up, everything goes up with it. And while a small portion of workers will see increased wages (low skill, low wage laborers), the net effect would inevitably be higher prices for majority of Americans.

GOP understands this. That’s why I think their strategy of using this as a rallying cry to drum up the xenophobia is such stupid short-term thinking.

It will eventually get to the point you’ll be forced to shoot yourself in the foot. It’s madness.

Right now majority of the people in this country support the mass deportation of all illegals. Not just GOP, majority of everyone.

That would inevitably mean detention centers (aka concentration camps) in all major urban centers where tens of thousands of illegals would be held until they could be deported.

Even if you used 10% of all airplanes in this country, it could take over a year to get rid of them all.

Realistically, we’re talking about putting millions of people into camps for years.

It’s madness we’ve all gone mad

In my experience Republicans with skin in the game who understand how the bread gets buttered aren’t as xenophobic as the poor ones.

For example I work in construction and many projects would grind to a halt without illegal labor. Everyone implicitly understands this so we all agree to look the other way.

Illegals are willing to work harder jobs, work with more enthusiasm, and with lower pay. Costs of construction would skyrocket without them.

The most xenophobic ones are the ones that feel threatened by the presence of illegals. Ie low skill and low wage.

I came to count how many times Trump says “millions and millions”

A) like I said it’s a prerequisite to move around millions of people. You need to first collect all of them, put them in camps. And then you would need something like 10% of all airline capacity working round the clock 24/7 for a year in order to move everyone out.

We would need camps. Deporting everyone would mean camps. Like I said- be very clear of what you’re suggesting.

B) us gov gives ITIN for people to pay taxes and illegals do. Hard to find a job when most places require i9 and participate in e-verify.

It’s easy to start a company, get an ITIN, and work as a subcontractor though. Believe me, vast swathes of our construction industry work in this manner.

C) it is not a criminal act, like getting a speeding ticket is not a criminal act. These people commit dramatically less crime than native-born Americans.

We should secure the border and deport every single one of them. That’s how a functional country operates. You can’t have a country if you don’t defend your borders.

That actually isn’t how the US functioned for most of its history. The “illegals” today would have been regular immigrants for the majority of this country’s history.

A functional country operates on what is best for the country. Normalizing their status and improving the immigration system is what would actually be done if our country was “functional”

A) we’re talking about the federal government creating camps and sticking millions of people in them. I want that to be very clear. That is a necessary prerequisite to move around millions of people. Remind you of any other period of time in history? Say… 1930s?

B) these are people that contribute positively to the economy. They

a) pay taxes without pulling from the system b) work jobs that Americans don’t want to do, leading to lower costs for businesses (and by extension, the consumers) c) stimulate local demand for goods and services by buying stuff from stores, going to restaurants, etc

C) these are people intertwined with the country. Many illegals have been here for years, majority of which have never committed any crime. The only reason their documents haven’t been normalized is because it’s impossible. The current US immigration system is broken and simply does not allow for the quantity and type of immigration that the economy needs. So the black market fills the void.

My opinion: we should take a page from Reagan and give the millions of illegals amnesty. At least the ones that haven’t committed crimes & have paid their taxes.

Then fix the broken immigration system by making it easier for people to come here legally.

We could get rid of illegals in a few months. The people in power don’t want that. Illegals are too useful as scapegoats for imaginary problems, and they are also too useful as cheap labor.

They will not actually get rid of illegals because labor price would shoot up which would lead to a massive inflation shock. We’re literally just repeating the 1930s. Economy goes to shit, people aren’t happy, what do you do?

Find a scapegoat. The problem is Republicans are playing with fire. They think they can control the flames they are fanning but it can pass a point of no return very quickly. I think it already has. Evidence being that even the Democrats are becoming anti-immigrant

Construction he promised to halt. Instead he wanted a photoshoot with CBP

Dems have been promising reform and help for decades now and there’s nada. Biden even expanded construction of “the Wall” tm and Kamala is promising border security. Nada about the plight of the 10-15 million people living in the shadow.

As the Overton Window shifts further and further to the right, both parties become hostile.

Waltz is a Zionist too, just not as zealous as Shapiro. I see no reason to believe the future will look any different from the current administration’s policies. Aka unconditional support for Israel with a couple strongly worded statements every once in a while

When he served in the House from 2007-2019, he frequently took pro-Israel votes, including voting to condemn a United Nations resolution affirming that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are illegal

Mark Mellman, the chairman of Democratic Majority for Israel’s super PAC, praised Harris’ selection of Walz in a statement, calling him a “proud pro-Israel Democrat with a strong record of supporting the U.S.-Israel relationship.”

Walz has never diverged from the party line of unconditionally supporting Israel, a position illustrated by his comments earlier this year at an event held by the Jewish Community Relations Council.

“The ability of Jewish people to self-determine themselves is foundational … The failure to recognise the state of Israel is taking away that self-determination. So it is anti-Semitic,” he said.

That’s a nice part of accepting refugees from a state like Cuba. You pretty much get to selectively import the right-wing elements of their population.

Similar effect happens with Venezuelans. The ones who can afford to uproot their lives are also more likely to align ideologically with US politics.

I used to work with a lot of Cubans. My favorites were the old ones. They would tell me stories about living in Cuba under Castro back in the day. One thing that I always found interesting is how they said they were happier. It might just be nostalgia but I’ve heard from older people from Soviet areas too.

Life was slower and as long as you did your job certain things were guaranteed to you. In a capitalist system you have infinitely more purchasing power but they would make the analogy of addiction. In the US you are addicted to money so you need to work a lot more to pay the bills.

Whereas in Cuba you spend a lot more time idle and just living life, even if you’re not able to purchase common items we consider essential. (Some days you go to store and there’s no shoes, next day there’s no bread, etc)

My least favorite were the 2nd generation ones. Like Marco Rubio. They don’t understand the struggle but feel intensely like they do. Very strong opinions with very little nuance. I’ve met my fair share.

The only thing that really matters is PA. If GOP wins PA, they win election. Right now it’s neck and neck with Trump a little ahead.

Kamala was always going to be up in national polls and she will always win national vote.

Boring? We are involved in two major regional wars with constant threat of escalation, global economic chaos, and the highest inflation in a generation. Fallout from a pandemic, the feds have been raising interest rates to the point the whole economy is fundamentally changing.

We are living through historic times. I feel like the world hasn’t been normal or “boring” since Dec 2019

Who cares what people online are saying? Most people just like to hate on the popular thing to hate because it makes them feel like they are sitting at the cool kid’s table at lunch.

Obviously consider the limitations of what you’re using for the project you’re using it for. But do the analysis for yourself. Don’t avoid something just because people don’t like it.

For example Javascript gets a lot of flak online but it’s one of the most popular languages and in my opinion, it’s great for what it does. I prefer coding in JS over Python even if JS has those idiosyncrasies that makes it the subject of many memes online.

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Ajit Pai used to be a lawyer for AT&T, just like the previous guy was an executive for the ISPs. However Ajit Pai was nominated by Obama originally. Trump made him head, but don’t get it twisted - there is a bipartisan concerted effort to fuck you. Tom Wheeler was just as bad as Pai - they were considering getting rid of net neutrality already in 2014 under him.

They basically just wait for the right moment to strike. If they fail they wait a few years and try again. They have a lot more patience persistence and attention than the public. They will always win.