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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • Exactly. We know how bad Trump is, but Biden in his disastrous ā€œhug Netanyahuā€ policy went out of his way to not just ignore pro-Palestinian voices but actively insult them. He said ā€œI have zero trust of Palestiniansā€ and publicly supported the invasion of Al Shifa hospital despite the ridiculous and debunked claim that there was a 3 story underground Hamas base beneath it. He overrode his advisors and removed pro-Palestine language in all his October and November speeches. He met with Israeli victims but never met a single Palestinian one and even had his tour bus detour around towns in Michigan that had too many Arab-Americans. He claimed he was looking for peace but vetoed ceasefire attempts and bashed Palestinians in general. (He later privately told people he meant to bash Hamas and shouldnā€™t have use the words interchangeably, but never apologized).

    Itā€™s one thing to hold your nose and vote for Biden, but itā€™s quite another to vote for him when heā€™s so unapologetically anti-Palestinian. And his attempt to get Arab-Americans to vote for him when he helped kill their relatives is to ignore them and say ā€œTrump would be worse.ā€ Thatā€™s not a winning strategy and he wants to claim he both needs our votes to win but also that we arenā€™t politically relevant.

    I hope Biden retires in shame and that Harris does better. She already had been meeting with Palestinian-American families when Biden refused to be seen with one.





  • Arabs have been attacking Jewish people for literally thousands of years in that region.

    False and propaganda. The reality is that Arabs and Jews coexisted in Jerusalem for thousands of years, its only recently within the last century that there was any great animosity. The ā€œGolden Age of Judaismā€ happened under Arab rule, as they were protected and flourished compared to being driven out of the rest of Europe during their dark ages. Thatā€™s where scholars like Maimonides came from.

    Iā€™m not going to waste time debunking every facet of your false narrative. If you genuinely want to learn about it ask any history professor; because youā€™re telling solely the Zionist narrative despite its historical inaccuracies.


  • And there you go, going back to the mindless false narrative.

    Israel went to war against neighboring countries because those countries were upset by the active ethnic cleansing that Israel was engaging in. Ever heard of Deir Yassin massacre and Ben Gurionā€™s orders to the military to evict all Arabs from the cities? And yet Israel still takes their frustrations over the war out on Palestinians who didnā€™t take part in it.

    Your clinging to false ahistorical narratives in no way helps your argument. Like I said, youā€™re hopeless since you canā€™t seem to learn from history and instead look for excuses.

    This fight wasnā€™t inevitable, the Israeli extremists made it happen; killing Rabin and rejecting multiple peace deals for the last 30 years. Netanyahu and Likud wanted this fight.


  • No, and youā€™re making a helluva lot of assumptions.

    Roughly 1/3 of the deaths on October 7 were of soldiers. Many of the rest were friendly fire. Israel claims that such a ratio of civilian deaths is ā€œacceptableā€ in wartime. The Israeli government frequently claims that there are no civilians in Gaza, and many Palestinians say the same about Israelis. Whatā€™s galling is that Israelis have been pushing these excuses for violence for years and are outraged that theyā€™re now being used against them.

    If you canā€™t see the parallels then youā€™re hopeless. For the record, itā€™s unacceptable that either side is doing this.







  • Itā€™s merely a necessity if we are to save any of the Palestinian people.

    History is littered with people who made that claim. There were Jews who thought that cooperating with Nazis would save some of their community. Black Americans who thought that working with Jim Crow politicians would make a net benefit. Itā€™s wrong, youā€™re wrong, and Palestinians will tell you theyā€™ve tried this and failed. Abbas offered to go to war against Hamas and did so, in the hopes that Israel would advance his two state solution. They abandoned him and all Palestinians are worse off for the attempt.