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  • why would I want to keep in contact with the “head in the sand” people

    Forget contacts. Imagine Meta has

    • poured way more developing hours in their fork than the FOSS community ever could
    • the most effective and easy to use mod tools
    • the best search tools for finding communities, topics and everything else (by a margin)
    • free instance hosting
    • every major wish list feature implemented
    • a working feed with endless content you actually find interesting
    • a vibrant community for every niche interest you might have
    • advanced development so much that it feels a couple versions ahead

    The more money they throw at this, the more people will feel tempted to join or at least try their service. It offers objective benefits. It would feel like using lemmy 0.09 when others already enjoy 0.18.



  • There’s nothing wrong with Lemmy’s user interface design.

    The first step is a UX disaster: https://join-lemmy.org/

    Only 2 clicks / pages down the road you can start registering an account, and you don’t see what the experience might be before that. Instead, you’re being presented tech talk about servers.

    You might argue it’s not actually lemmy but just the landing page. I argue, it’s so good at being a scarecrow, most people visiting lemmy haven’t seen anything else except for that page.


    The inner lemmy is pretty fine, I agree. Some parts are still confusing. For example, most people will not figure out they can search for content from within a specific community by carefully configuring the drop downs in the general search form. Most will look for the search directly attached to the community.




  • The article is not about single persons who might be trolls or whatever to qualify as a “bad guy”. But about megacorporations like Meta.

    Yes, sorry for being unclear. I meant the bad ‘guy’ Meta. Maybe continuing with ‘entity’ would have been better:

    we can be sure some entities will join

    ensure only good entities enter


    The best way to deal with them is-in my opinion-to not cooperate and defederate them as soon as they start to enter.

    I tend to agree. Still quite new to the topic.


  • We should be honest and ensure people join the Fediverse because they share some of the values behind it.

    How could that be done? Anyone with the resources can host an instance, and there are plenty of instances with a low entry bar.

    If the fediverse grows enough, we can be sure some entities will join not because they share our values, but because they see our value.

    I don’t see how we could prevent that or ensure only good guys enter. The fediverse is open by design.


  • the powers that be must never be allowed to join the fediverse

    How are they not allowed? How is it checked, how prevented?

    As I see it, they can freely use the code, freely set up instances, freely create user accounts on their own or other instances, with ‘independent’ users, employees or bots.

    The only thing stopping them is the current fediverse’s insignificance. We’re just not tasty enough, yet. But if we become, how could we disallow them from joining?



  • I disagree on moderation, I don’t think any #Fediverse admin would trust #Meta enough to use their software for moderation.

    I found the example interesting in principle. We can think of varieties besides moderation. What other features are highly requested and sought after?

    What about an easy way to find, join, and engage with even niche communities? Comm lookup and joining is wonky, especially when coming from small instances. Another related feature is user-side grouping of similar comms into one multi-community. Or being able to easily move between instances, relocate your account. Better indexing for web searches.

    The list of possible features, ranging from QoL to Enablers, is endless. Big companies with coding experience can easily dominate the scene, and make it hard to not join them or use their service. Their mere presence could spell dependence.

    Like I heard we’re using lemmy 0.18 now. Would you voluntarily still use an older version, like 0.9, when you can just as well use 0.18?


  • If they have any ability to post to the Fediverse or to track things they’ll do it all over again.

    They have that ability, and always will have. They can create as many accounts as they like on as many instances as they like, or run as many instances as they like themselves, use incentivized individuals, or employees, or bots, or any combination of all of the above. No one can stop them, maybe even no one can spot them.

    The only thing which is holding them back right now is lemmy/kbin still being too insignificant. If the network continues to grow, more and more big corps will see it as a market and an opportunity, and they will have plenty of ways to interact with it.


  • if Google or Meta wants to join they should to us not us to them so if they break federation we should not care and continue implement our stuff

    As I understood the article, the danger is that large actors like these are too important too ignore. Too many users, too much content to neglect. So while in theory you are obviously right, in reality there will be a temptation to cater to their needs, because it seems so worthwhile.



  • relatively homogenous

    Some may be surprised by the cultural diversity this rather small country packs:

    It has four main linguistic and cultural regions: German, French, Italian and Romansh. Although most Swiss are German-speaking, national identity is fairly cohesive, being rooted in a common historical background, shared values such as federalism and direct democracy,[15][page needed] and Alpine symbolism.[16][17] Swiss identity transcends language, ethnicity, and religion, leading to Switzerland being described as a Willensnation (“nation of volition”) rather than a nation state.[18]

    Due to its linguistic diversity, Switzerland is known by multiple native names: Schweiz [ˈʃvaɪts] (German);[f][g] Suisse [sɥis(ə)] (French); Svizzera [ˈzvittsera] (Italian); and Svizra [ˈʒviːtsrɐ, ˈʒviːtsʁɐ] (Romansh).[h] On coins and stamps, the Latin name, Confoederatio Helvetica — frequently shortened to “Helvetia” — is used instead of the spoken languages.

    I also think the local traditions differentiating down to single villages are more important and alive than in other countries.

    But yes, “national identity is fairly cohesive”, maybe you meant that.



  • It would be possible to do this study without contamination by using completely unknown and newly-released songs

    When writing songs, I always wondered if that genius idea is actually just something I heard 10 years ago, but don’t remember consciously. Similarly, I wonder if I like a catchy tune because it is catchy in itself, or because it reminds me of something which I cannot recall consciously right now.

    Sometimes, I had these moments later when the dots connect, sometimes not. With what confidence could I conclude something is new and original?

    I guess that’s just another task for future AI.


    • Some of the biggest communities like r/pics, r/aww, and r/GIF decided to post John Oliver pictures and GIFs. In a tweet, Oliver approved this move.
    • In the case of r/aww, the community is also allowed to post pictures of Chiijohn.
    • r/iPhone decided to post pictures celebrating “dashing” Tim Cook.
    • r/Shitposting banned posts with the letter k.
    • r/Wellthatsucks is now a subreddit about vacuum cleaners.
    • r/Nofans is now a passive PC cooler subreddit.
    • r/Interestingasfuck removed a lot of all rules apart from asking members to not break site-wide rules.
    • r/Memes is allowing only Medieval / Landed Gentry memes. This is in response to Huffman’s “Landed Gentry” comment about protesting subreddits.
    • r/PokemonGo is now allowing pictures of John Oliver, Pikachu, or Spark.
    • r/Horny is now a “Christian Minecraft server.”
    • r/Steam members are posting about actual steam.
    • r/HarryPotter is now referring to Huffman as Voldemort.
    • Some subreddits such as r/Showerthoughts are determining close days for the community.

    Glorious.