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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.catoScience Memes@mander.xyzHoney
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    13 days ago

    There’s also a pretty… sane… subgroup that proposes ‘corrective breeding’; a process wherein we undo the destructive changes humans introduced to the species and return them to what would be found in their ‘natural’ state

    Yeah I feel like that is just forcing animals to live in the way humans want them to live under a weird assumption that we know what they want.

    I could live out in the wild if I really wanted to, but I don’t because living in a heated home, having access to healthcare, and having a grocery store nearby is way better than starving to death, getting frostbite, dying of a disease, or getting eaten by wolves. I don’t know how an animal wants to live their lives, so who knows, maybe they’d rather die of disease over being poked by a few needles by a veterinarian, starving because there’s no mangers filled by humans, or getting eaten alive by a pack of wolves. Maybe animals want that, but there’s no way of knowing and it’s a really weird thing to assume given humans don’t want to live that way. We live happy an fulfilling lives without having to constantly worry about being eaten by wolves, why would that be a requirement for an animal to be happy?

    I think people see nature from a Disney cartoon perspective where the only danger is a human hunter. But the reality is nature is extremely brutal.

    I don’t think a perfect ethical solution to domesticated animals really exists. Best we can do is just treat animals better. If they seem like they’re happy enough, then that’s probably alright.




  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.catoScience Memes@mander.xyzHoney
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    14 days ago

    Seems like a weird thing though. A lot of domesticated animals can’t survive in the wild. And even the ones that can, it would only be in certain parts of the world, and they’d be an invasive species.

    So do we want all of those animals to go extinct? If you eliminate all farm related activities with these animals, give them a place to live out the rest of their lives, but then what? But do you not allow them to breed? Or just let them all die off so they go extinct?

    Or do you keep some of them in zoos? Given they’ve been bred to live on a farm, does that mean you have zoos that are identical to farms? And if you can get milk, eggs and honey from these animals if they’re technically living in zoo (which is exactly like a farm in every way) what’s been accomplished?


  • The death rate has already gone way down as Israel shifted from assault to low intensity warfare in Gaza. Look at these numbers from the UN in June: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-19-june-2024

    Notice the curve flattening? According to Al Jazeera the death toll is at 42,500 now. So 5 months to get to 30K (assault phase). Then 7 months to get from 30K to ~43K (low intensity phase). So it’s a rate of less than 2K per month now. At the present rate, the Israel-Hamas war would have to go on for over 23 years to get to the level of casualties from the Syrian civil war.

    Yahya Sinwar was just killed because he had to go above ground with only two guards. Do you really think Hamas is going to hold out for 23 years? Come on, you’re smarter than this.

    Sorry but the numbers just don’t fit the genocide narrative that people here can’t let go of. If you’re starting from genocide being the absolute truth, then you’re incentivized to ignore a lot of facts and start saying things that don’t make a lot of sense to conform to a narrative.


  • Are we really being upset about a line moving up a couple of pixels when we’re talking about polling on Trump? The polls have never been accurate on Trump and besides that there really isn’t really a model for a convicted felon that tried to overthrow democracy running in a Presidential election. Nobody will know what the numbers are until the votes are counted.

    No matter what the polls say it doesn’t change what needs to be done. Vote. Support the Harris campaign in whatever way you’re able to. If Trump was polling at 60% or if he was polling at 30% it wouldn’t change what needs to be done.

    Vote.


  • The comment you replied to is also an example of free speech. I see it made you a little butt-hurt that this guy isn’t interested in what you have to say. But that’s the nature of free speech, you can say what you want, but others a free to think you’re a waste of time.

    Perhaps if someone isn’t interested in what you have to say, you shouldn’t bother replying to them.


  • Biden said that Obama was asking for too much and could risk Israel stop listening to the US.

    So in your version of events, was Biden right that Israel would stop listening to the US? Like is Israel not listening to the US because Biden was unable to convince Obama? Or are you saying Israel does listen to the US and Biden is making Netanyahu do things he doesn’t really want to do?

    Really not sure what your point is here.