Thats the thing everyone forgets. He never planned on winning. He didnt want to win. Go watch him right after they announced victory. The man was lost. The plan was always do the show circuit and play victim and rake in the money without any responsibility for his shitty actions.

He didnt want it either, but all that is left is toperpetually double down. And here we are…

I was about to say, you got way too many things that absolutely will bond with that with no hesitation. Thats a very unstable molecule.

I agree, but that wasnt my question. Well, i guess it was accidentally vague. I can see how you misunderstood my prompt.

My question is in regards to what direction the voting public trend if that happens. Martyr boost propelling vance up, or fizzle bust?

Well thats why i ask. You can say lucky us, but at this point in the election, im not so sure.

Between the vitriol and retoric and conspiracy theories weve already seen, the implication of violence and absolute craziness would, without question be enough for me to not hope for anything like that.

But im asking about how the voting public would poll. Would vance get a martyr boost from their dear dead leader, or would an immediately apathetic undecided vote rise up, one that was origionally locked into the trump/vamce ticket. Would it just vanish overnight? I doubt it, but vance remains an amazingly unpopular vp pick. Without trump, where is his ceiling?

I just saw a photo from last nights town hall. The man looks like he wont make it to november 5th.

Sincere question: Have any of the experts run numbers on what happens to the vance ticket if trump takes a worm nap before nov 5th?

Blue alerts cant be blocked on my phone like amber and silver alerts. I live 300 miles from where this occurred.

Police abusing the system again.

Dude, its called context. The usage implied was very clear.

And my bad, i guess i left out the little “1” at the start that says my definition was the primary usage to support my argument, but whatever… it seemed obvious.

Despite that, even by your narrower definition, trump still has charisma. just not the kind that works on you. People can be likable and have a magnetic personality and whatever else, and you can still despise them. They would still be called charismatic. The people waving his signs, attending his rallys, and wearing his red hats would certainly say he is likable and has a magnetic personality. Are they wrong? No. The sheer number of his followers prove he has charisma. Clap yourself on the back for not falling for that particular style of charisma if you want, but dont deny it exists.

charisma /kə-rĭz′mə/ noun A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.

Trump absolutely has charisma. Outside of being a lying narcissist, its literally his defining trait.

And vance, in comparison to trump, is much more personable. That was on display. Vance is still a weasely amoral couch fucker, but if i was absolutely forced to be in a room with one or the other, i would pick vance over trump every time.

In the US you get a bill

My take away is the same. That was more of a “debate” than we have had in literal years.

I think walz did good. He held his ground and had some very solid jabs. He knows his roll as second man and backup and played it well.

Vance… did suprisingly well, and will definately be a threat in the future, based on his debate skills at least. This is practice for him regardless of how the election turns out. Experience is what he lacks, and the national stage will hone him over the next few years.

All in all, ill say no clear winner for the debate on face value. It was a show for the sake of the show. But ill absolutely be paying attention in the coming years. One scandal can sink vance, and if past gop tendancies are anything, there will be one. Walz is fairly bulletproof in that regard.

That was a good effort from both sides tbh.

People dont remember trump as president from under 4 years ago and are saying things whent great when he was in power… It absolutely is a long time.

Sell the houses?

Ill be honest, ill take it. But im so confused right now… is this how progress is supposed to happen? Its been so long. I didnt draw the line, they did, and still here we are. At something reasonable?

Still. I must reiterate, fuck mtg, but… support her this time? Fuck.

Im not so sure he can do that tbh.

Not suprised. His entire campaign has been as a spoiler. A fairly transparent one at that. His dad fought mobsters. He sucks up to them.

If only his dad and uncle could see him now… so much for the kennedy legacy.

Im reluctant to ask, but i feel obligated to do so. what in your mind is the difference in this scenario?

I feel your reasoning will tell alot. Lets go.

Its very clear by now i dont actually read or understand any of the far aim’s. So yes. Fully endorsed!

Btw, im a pilot and i use arch.

Im licking my piper when it gets out of annual. Thank you.

Edit. I just realized what the number of the FAR was… still doing it, but you got me.

The clone wars series did so much to redeem the prequel trilogy. I remember watching the phantom menace in theater. I loved it. But as i grew older, the flaws and the holes, the cgi,l and clunky dialog really came to the forefront and i fell out of love. But the clone wars gave the star wars universe depth that helps flesh out and maintain relevance of the prequels. I know the novels and old canon comics are the og heros of the star wars universe, but to see something in a television media format really brought it together for me. Ffs, they made maul relevant. And interesting and conflicted too!

I dont think that the prequels would be remembered as fondly without the clone wars series.