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  • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldtoSteam Deck@sopuli.xyzGood Times
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    8 months ago

    My sort of interesting experience:

    I tried to buy the LE on launch day, and couldn’t get through the payment page. When it was listed as sold out, I bought a regular deck without much difficulty.

    Then I saw the LE was available again, and decided to try to buy it again. I was planning to cancel my original order if I could get the LE.

    I tried to check out dozens of times over the next 24 hours, but on the final page I kept getting the “something went wrong” error.

    About an hour ago, I decided to cancel my original order (you can do this by requesting a refund on the order page). The refund was issued 15 minutes later.

    I went back and tried to order the LE again, 30 minutes after the refund was confirmed. Went through on the very first try.

    So from my limited experience, I think Steam might be blocking all LE orders (and maybe even regular deck orders?) if you already have an active order.


  • if we add true randomness to an input-based decision, it stops being predetermined, but there’s still a logically conclusive choice you’re going to make, based on the incomplete inputs you have. You cannot ‘freely’ decide to not pick that choice

    I think you are contradicting yourself. If you cannot freely choose something else, then your choice is predetermined.

    Whereas if a choice stops being predetermined, then there is no “logically conclusive choice” that you are definitely going to make. There is a range of possible choices, one of them is chosen by you, and the others could have been chosen but weren’t.

    For example, you choose a tuna salad sandwich for lunch, but you could have chosen a ham sandwich. That choice was quite possibly not determined by logic, considerations of evolutionary fitness, or genetics. If it were, then you would probably always choose tuna salad over a ham sandwich.


  • I don’t think it’s that simple. Decisions can be based on more than one factor. Nobody doubts that the things around you affect your decision, the question is whether they fully determine your decision.

    Which is not to say that free will definitely does or does not exist. But you’ve described all decisions as necessarily predetermined or random. Technically that is correct, since formally a “random” variable is simply one without a fixed value (ie something that is not predetermined and should be described as a range of possible values). Using the formal definition, “randomness” is exactly what you would expect if free will exists.

    The more common understanding of “random” is “completely arbitrary” or “outside anyone’s control”, in which case you have presented a false dichotomy. If free will exists, then a decision could be non-arbitrary, within one’s control, yet not predetermined.