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  • enkers@sh.itjust.workstoScience Memes@mander.xyzHoney
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    15 days ago

    I wouldn’t say I’m particularly emotional about it. A lot of people that make arguments similar to the ones you’re making do so as more of a bad faith “gotcha” rather than arguing something they actually believe in, most often as an excuse to kill sentient beings.

    Responding to the same bad faith arguments is draining, so if I was bit kurt, that could’ve been part of it.

    Now, if anything, I’d say I’m more curious. What does avoiding microbial killing look like, day to day? Do you avoid washing to preserve your microbial biome? I assume you’d avoid contributing to animal death as well since that would also kill their own microbial biome. I find this quite interesting, TBH!

    To answer your question, I personally consider myself, for lack of better terms, a sentientist. And to me that entails veganism. I think sentience and consciousness is an emergent phenomena which occurs on a spectrum which roughly correlates to CNS complexity (although there are certainly beings with less centralised nervous systems which are also incredibly complex).

    Consciousness produces the capacity for experiential existence and thus the experiences of pain and suffering, and I believe we have a moral obligation to minimize these unnecessary harms that we might cause.


  • enkers@sh.itjust.workstoScience Memes@mander.xyzHoney
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    Why does it matter? We can’t understand the subjective experience of rocks any more than we can bacteria. Why should we rule out their capacity and not bacteria’s? There’s no more evidence that one has more of a conscious subjective experience than the other, living or not.

    By your logic, shouldn’t we opt to be more inclusive of rocks if they could potentially have some sort of experience that we have no current understanding of?