Appreciate the reply. It is important to note that even those states require reasonable articulable suspicion of an actual crime and that the person is detained under such articulable suspicion. If you invoked your 4th and 5th amendment right even under those circumstances, they would have the burden to articulate in court the specific crime and why they believed you were involved in that crime. Stop and ID is a bit misleading as it still requires specific narrow suspicion that is tied to an actual crime and the person is detained under that context.
Agreed on all of that. As I understand it, periods of better worker markets make for less of that nonsense people are willing endure. I’ve seen a recent trend of corporations turning up the BS because the job market has been tightening up and people are less willing to take risks.