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Cake day: June 13th, 2023

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  • it’s going to need to move itself to prove it.

    If you were raised Christian, you should know how much God loves human faith. He would never do anything to deprive us of the challenge of faith, because He knows how healthy it is for us to live on faith. Everything He directs us to do is for our own good. Revealing himself would deny us that opportunity. There will be a second coming, but by then it’ll be too late.

    Let it go and leave us alone.

    You know where to find us when you’re ready. Wishing you all the best.




  • I was raised an atheist and didn’t find Christ until adulthood, so I do grasp that it’s all voluntary. I also recognize that you can’t force anyone to be Christian against their will.

    So on those points we agree. Where we differ is that I firmly believe my God is your God, and neither of us could ever change that, no matter how much we may want to. Christ came to save all people, with a focus on those who need it most. So yes, Christianity does apply to you, even though you don’t want it to.

    I fully understand your “get off my back” perspective, honestly. Telling someone else how to think or what to do is a remarkably terrible way to make friends. I’m not here to be a jerk. Promise. I know you’re going to do what you’re going to do, irrespective of me. I only want to take every chance I can get to give testimony of my own experiences with God, and to follow the Great Commission for anyone who actually cares to let a seed get planted.

    So does that mean we can coexist? I certainly hope so, but I recognize you may think I’m overbearing.


  • What a well-written, intelligent, and respectful rebuttal. Thank you.

    I really wish the message of Jesus, exactly as you described it, was better understood by all of the anti-Christians. It’s a seriously good message, yet so many people want to hate on it without giving it a chance.

    As for the Old Testament, I’m continually blown away by how much of it foreshadows Jesus, His ministry, and His apostles. The number of times this happens is far too great for me to count, though I’m sure some biblical scholars have attempted to do so. Having grown up in the church, and clearly having read the good book, you may well be more familiar than I am with all of the foreshadowing, as I’m a convert who was raised atheist and didn’t find God until my 30s. I still have a lot of catching up to do, and I’m sure I always will. But suffice it to say, there’s foreshadowing through and through.

    Before Christ, we made God’s work more difficult. Humanity wasn’t wholly ready to follow Him. Abraham and his descendants were, at least they were enough to form a series of binding covenants. But until we were ready to receive Christ, God did what needed to be done to lead His first non-begotten son to the point when Christ could successfully arrive. And that, I believe, explains why the OT played out the way it did.

    As for twin roe deer, I have no doubt God appreciates the form of a woman. Otherwise He’d not have made her look as He did, and He’d not have predicated our entire civilization upon marital intimacy.

    As for the scripture that we now consider canonical, do you really think God had no hand in the Church’s selection? I find it implausible that He’d take the effort to inspire various works of scripture, but then leave their canonicalization unguided.



  • Actual Christian here. This decision is not extreme, whatsoever, though I get that it appears extreme to non-believers and feminists. The thing to understand here is that Christians follow the Bible. And conversely, those who do not follow the Bible are not Christian. So let’s take a look at a relevant Bible passage (1 Timothy 2:11-12):

    Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
    But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

    Now that’s the word of God. It’s eternal, unchanging, and dictates how He wills us to live.

    It’s definitely out-of-step with modern secular culture, and that’s a very good thing from the Christian perspective. We are God’s peculiar people (Titus 2:11-15).