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Forgive the hastily made meme. All too common with us engineers.
no no no, this is the wrong way around
because sales and marketing sell it before it even exists
truth. Why wait for a product at all? Just sell it now, then yell at your engineers for taking so damn long!
Sales: "Can we do this?
Dev: “No, we cannot.”
Sales: “Uhhhh… But I already told the customer we could.”
Dev: “That’s called lying. You lied to the customer.”
Sales: “…So you’ll have it done next week?”
Dev: “I’m going to need at least three weeks.”
Sales: “…But I already told the customer two weeks.”
Dev: Sigh
Except when a bug pops up somewhere. Ownership/Responsibility changes in sub-Planck-second time when assigning blame.
In our head nothing ever was wrong, bugs only came along when you came along! You should have been able to build it in days, what’s so hard about this?
Try all work done period. C suite “I made this”
This is almost an anti-meme
ah but they sometimes put a sticker on it or sth
I mean you CAN just get an evening marketing job, 8-5 engineering, half hour break, 5.30-1:30am writing marketing copy, designing campaigns, A/B testing, budget management, demand gen, lead gen, sales enablement, CRO/CPC/CAC management, Martech tool alignment, attribution tracking, SEO research, content marketing, press releases and 3P distribution tools, all of which matched against brand voice and targeting to ABM the specific ICP within each vertical.
There’s literally nothing stopping you.
so half my day would be filled with bullshit, great
ah yes, the famously bullshit-free career of software engineering
Yea, but, alternatively, sales could just stop being entitled pricks. I’ve worked with sales people that were excellent - they had a technical mind and were able to grasp what our product could and couldn’t do and, if they were uncertain… they would fucking ask me. And I’ve worked with sales people that won’t tell me they made a sale until two months later when the deadline is a week away.
Nah fam just sell something that doesn’t exist and make engineers magic it into existance that week