(not sure if this is the right community, sorry)

Hi, someone posted this on another server. I’d like to request we defederate with rammy.site and exploding-heads.com as well. I scrolled through some of their posts and comments and it’s full of ridiculous anti-left propaganda, for example a post where some liberal Florida family fleeing the state when some child protection laws got passed, implying liberals abuse children and won’t live in a state that doesn’t allow them to. Just take a look for yourself.

" Admins of Lemmy.ml please consider defederating from rammy.site it has been taken over by right wing malicious actors from exploding-heads.com and the admin is nowhere to be found.

It is imperative that you take action as soon as possible the users on rammy are using the site to spread their messages to a further audience, we must nip this in the bud. If you don’t believe me check the instance for yourself, you’ll see it dominated with bigoted right wing posts and spam communities."

Edit: So many commenters think this is about political opinions or disagreement. It’s not. If I said “Mixing bleach and ammonia is good for you” I bet some of you would call that a political disagreement.

  • Eric@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    Additional thought… If the people in the defederate camp just go and post things they don’t like… Maybe they defederate with us… Then we don’t stoop, and you get your wish? (I assume it goes both ways) 😜

    • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      History doesn’t show it going that way. The bad actors often take an approach similar to EEE, seeking out potential vulnerable populations of misfits to exploit. Rammy has been effectively taken over by EH users due to absent admins and maintaining federation just helps the bad actors continue to find victims.

      Let’s take a look at some (US) historical examples:

      • The “Gamergate” saga was coopted by bad actors to radicalize isolated young men in the online gaming community, enabled by unchecked vitriol. This led directly to communities like 4chan, which were home to shitposting internet misfits, being coopted by the far-right and repurposed as platforms for spewing hatred and sharing plans for terrorism.
      • Neo-nazis coopted the fashions and musical style of hardcore punk rocker “skins” (making “skinhead” synonymous with neo-nazi and making SHARP necessary). During the 80s and 90s, said neo-nazis invaded venues, assaulting and battering attendees, while spewing forth hate. This led to not just the writing of “Nazi Punks, Fuck Off” but formation of explicitly anti-nazi bands like Reagan Youth and escalations in violence against the invaders who were trying to take over.
      • Going back to the early-20th century, extremely wealthy bad actors, in what became known as The Business Plot, attempted to use neglected veterans to remove FDR from office in a coup, in order to undo The New Deal and ally the US with Axis powers. They did so by a combination of bribery and getting bad actors into their target audiences’ venues under false pretenses so that they could deliver their messages in a manner intended to elicit sympathy for their cause.

      How about current events? Commercial and non-commercial entities alike are pulling away from the microblogging platform formerly-known as Twitter due to unchecked vitriol, hate, and disinformation.

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        Well… I visited there site… That’s… Ummm… Well… Maybe there servers can cool down by going to hell? That’s… That’s not good man. I may even have seen some sort of terrorist activity on the home page. I’m not saying I would be happy about saying this… But maybe we should defederate. Eats Humble Pie

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          Thank you for taking the time to look at the evidence and reevaluate. I really don’t like it myself and it’s exhausting but, due to the existence of bad actors, we have to be vigilant in order to protect our free and open venues from being subverted or complicit with their behavior.