• ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    And once again the conservatives are showing that they are truly America’s enemy at home. Not just through fomenting domestic terrorism and a coup, but also by throwing whatever remains of the US’ reputation and reliability for it’s allies under the fucking bus.

    They have so much blood on their hands by this point I wonder if they simply enjoy being the villains of this story.

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      7 months ago

      Who is in power right now. Both parties are deeply infused with liberalism, the only difference is where they point their fascism. You cannot in good faith say one party is better than the other when the “better” party is literally complicit in genocide.

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        7 months ago

        For all intents and purposes the conservative party is in power. Sure, they aren’t in the White House, but they own a majority in congress and the supreme court.

        As for complicity in genocide: I never said I liked the Biden administration’s wholesale carte blanche sorry of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, but two wrongs don’t make a right. The US doesn’t need to also support the genocide of Ukrainians by Russia through political inaction. One current genocide involving a US ally is bad enough, we don’t need two thank you very much.

        Sure, I’d love for the US to stop supporting Israel. But I’m not going to suggest they do it over the dead bodies of Ukrainians.

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        I get your point about the balkanization of US politics, but frankly it’s called for in this particular instance (as well as the Jan 6 coup attempt I am referring to) as it’s quite literally the conservative party’s representatives blocking the effort to give aid to Ukraine in congress. No ifs, buts, or both sides-isms about that.

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          7 months ago

          The fact that you think another 60 billion is going to change the course of the war after untold billions have already been poured into it over the past two years is absolutely hilarious. The best chance NATO had to defeat Russia was last summer when they scrounged everything they had for the big offensive. Ukrainian army was still in decent shape back then, NATO supplies tanks, ammunition, and AD systems, and so on. The offensive was an a complete and utter disaster. That level of support is simply not possible now because the west is running out of material things like artillery shells and missiles. Meanwhile, Ukraine is running out of manpower. Anybody who keeps promoting this war is a sick individual who simply wants people to die for the sake of it.

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            7 months ago

            And what, pray tell, is the alternative here? A surrender to Russia is tantamount a full on capitalisation of the west and a defacto encouragement for Putin to keep pushing aggressive expansionist agendas. Ukraine will have an ongoing border dispute that can turn violent at any time with an adversary that’s been emboldened by a proven lack of support by Ukraine’s allies.

            There is no winner in war, but this would be about as close to winning as Russia could possibly get.

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                7 months ago

                Read the above. I’m having issues with them winning at all, given the implications for the future security of Europe.

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                    7 months ago

                    No, I’d say my biggest issue is with the US becoming an unreliable ally just because the conservative party wants to score some stupid political points. See my original comment.

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        7 months ago

        Tribalism is a deeply racist term created to delegitimize indigenous communities.