• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Do they at least require insurance on anything that goes faster than 15 mph or similar?

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      4 months ago

      As far as I read/understand, nope. But if it does limit the assistance to 28 miles an hour, that might be required if the bike goes above that speed. (Note: that’s only the point where the power would stop assisting, not the fastest speed the bike can do.)

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          4 months ago

          I have a Class 3 (28mph), it’s actually not too bad. That assumes the brakes are well-maintained, though, and as we know there are no inspections for e-bikes. I’ve seen some terrifyingly bad brakes on normal bicycles, so I can’t imagine what some people’s e-bikes look like.

          It should be mandatory for Class 2 and Class 3 e-bikes to have hydraulic disc brakes imo. I have mechanical disc brakes, and I have to tighten them at least once a month. It seems unwise to trust that the average person would also do that. Rim brakes are right out; they have nowhere near enough braking power for the speed and weight of most e-bikes.

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          4 months ago

          I ride a class 3 and 30mph is not that bad. I regularly hit that coming down hills, even on a non-ebike. It does require your attention to be on the road and it would hurt if you wiped out. My fastest ever was 44mph

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              4 months ago

              Its largely by state here in the US, but it is kind of staring to converge on similar guidelines.

              In Colorado

              Class 1: The electric motor provides assistance only while the rider is pedaling and stops assisting at 20 mph.

              Class 2: The electric motor can propel the bike without pedaling, but stops assisting at 20 mph.

              Class 3: The electric motor provides assistance only while the rider is pedaling and stops assisting at 28 mph.

              All must be less than 750 watts, but it doesn’t specify how that is measured. Also, these rules aren’t reliably enforced.

              My city just has a 20mph limit on urban trails and tolerates ebikes that don’t do stupid stuff and ring their bell for peds.

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                  4 months ago

                  I’ll run a test at some point. Definitely faster than a car, but my bike has nice brakes. Not every cheap Chinese budget bike is going to have these brakes.

                  Also, because my ebike is relatively light/average, there is a “wind wall” at around 20 mph where aerodynamics become more effective than pedaling. Sitting up and stopping pedaling when I’ve been hunched over pushing hard will quickly bring me back to 15-20 mph. I don’t know where this wind wall is on a heavy ebike with fat tires, a heavy rider, and a rack full of luggage.

                  To the point of braking for pedestrians, on paved trails, I always ring my bell until people acknowledge me in some nonverbal way and I slow down for dogs because they can be startled by fast bikes. I’ve had many peds thank me for ringing the bell on a trail and I’m convinced if everyone did it, 2/3 of the bike/pedestrian animosity would instantly dry up.

                  Cars don’t care around here. They only see their phones, traffic lights, and the back of the car in front of them.

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                    4 months ago

                    Cars don’t care around here.

                    That’s what they say about bikers (especially electrical) here in the pedestrian zone and the sidewalks, too.

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        4 months ago

        I never dienied that some states are terminally stupid. I mean, some states in the US don’t even require regular safety checks for cars.