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It is not that surprising, Arabic media has been reporting it for a while. It is just that corporate media in the West is finally catching up to reality.
We’re basically seeing a narrative collapse happening in real time.
Arabic, Latin American, Southeast Asian, Chinese (obviously), Indian (obviously)…
Wait, isn’t this the same map of countries which recognize Palestine?
The true international community
If only someone had warned them
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Ukraine lost its sovereignty back in 2014 when the west ran a coup that overthrew the legitimate and democratically elected government. What NATO “support” has accomplished was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and millions more had their lives ruined without changing the outcome. End of story.
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You mean when Yanukovych tried to make himself dictator and killed some protestors for it only to flee when that triggered massive protests and the US wanted the people protesting to accept his deal and not get rid of him?
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Should also point out that five police officers were tried for this supposed massacre. The trial itself was shady as shit and Kiev Independent acknowledged that the Ukrainian prosecution sabotaged the proceedings. Out of the five officers on trial, the three that were tried in absentia were conveniently given harsh sentences and the two in attendance did not serve any time, with one being acquited.
yeah that’s totally what happened https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup
Ah yes a quora post that reads like a conspiracy theory with sources that point to other quora posts. This is why debunking qanon, flat earth and other such conspiracies is such a chore, no one ever has like one credible thing to point to, it’s a spiderweb of events that usually don’t properly connect but they all have massive documents that try to connect them anyways.
How to say you have poor reading comprehension without saying you have poor reading comprehension.
It’s true: A really high IQ is required to fully comprehend conspiracy posts
I love how you keep referring to well documented facts as conspiracy theories. Really helps highlight the quality of your intellect.
Ooh quora, well known for it’s sane and well researched investigative reporting lmao
The article literally links to dozens of mainstream western sources. I love how libs are invariably unable to actually engage with the content, and simply resort to ad hominem when faced with facts that run contrary to their narrative.
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“Quora is not a good source” is not an ad hominem.
libs are invariably unable to actually engage with the content
This, however, is exactly that
Dismissing the source because it’s Quora without actually engaging with the content of the source which links to lots of primary sources, is in fact an example of ad hominem.
Pointing out that libs use this tactic however is not.
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This is not true by the way
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I actually appreciate your wholehearted bewilderment instead of calling everyone a Russian bot. I know a guy in Oregon who just fishes all the time and works shit jobs who wrote an epic series on the Maidan if you ever decide to give a shit about what happened.
To tell you the truth, I have no confidence any redditor could take the ride he and I took, back to WWII. Back to Stepan Bandera. Back to the Breton Woods conference which began the motions which positioned the US to grasp at total financial, military, technological, petrochemical, pharmaceutical, caloric, you name it we weaponized it economically on a scale the British and other little piddly “empires” could never dream of.
Back before that, to the development of capitalism itself which was delayed in Germany resulting in its peculiar backward traits. How it indirectly affected the irrationalist philosophers which inspired Hitler.
There is no hiding the coup in Ukraine slappy. It was well planned. It was heralded with a bipartisan tripartite of congressional emissaries you surely know and love: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bmaakY-PIAc (this video is search blocked on youtube and duckduckgo but is accessible). A paratrooper from north carolina helped orchestrate the false flag attacks at the Maidan. You’d never believe it all. The Russians can’t even believe some of the shit I know about Ukrainian history.
Did you know Stepan Bandera was assassinated by the KGB with poison gas
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PS - I can almost relate to people who say things like this, or speculate about how every country in the world engages in torture.
Almost. I can almost remember what it was like to dream like you of a world where everyone is as evil as USA, EU, Japan, NZ, Aus, SK. But thankfully it isn’t. It’s a historical process in motion. Not a static idealistic element of all nation states.
The truth is that modern torture practices were invented and codified by the colonial empires through systematic concentration camp butchery in the Congo (devices which castrate people faster, etc), other colonies, then the British invented torture which didn’t leave marks for domestic use, the Five Techniques. The US has further innovated torture by electrocuting people in the testicles and other such things related to our military hazing culture that creates so many serial killers famous in our country.
You can watch TV shows and pretend the world is all Guantanamo Bay, but we have the training manuals slappy. Going back to the torture methods of the british in malaysia and more. We have all the operation condor torture manuals and SERE. I have seen everything slappy. :-) It will always be out there now. Just like 24 taught me what I can do with a lamp wire in a few moments. We opened pandora’s box to try to control the world. We tried to rip the human soul apart and reassemble it. But we failed. And now we have to pay the price of watching our empire crumble.
The Ukrainians are part of a trail of forensic evidence going back to the British empire in Malaysia slappy. For want of all the evidence but the torture they would be marked American American American :-)
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bUt aKtcHuAlLy!
The Republican cowards denying aid needed by Ukraine are entirely to blame.
I am not a republican, but sending aid to Ukraine so that more Ukrainians die, is something we shouldnt be doing.
That’s defeatist bullshit that’s only serving the interests of the thug responsible for Russian aggression.
Those are easy words for someone that doesnt have to fight and die in a war that is already lost.
The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom against Russian oppression. We should be helping them, and your defeatism is doing the opposite.
go sign up and fight for what you believe in
Maybe I’m wrong here, but I think most people never thought Ukraine would win the war outright. Personally, I’ve never heard anyone say that they thought Ukraine would push Russia out entirely and the war would end. Even if Ukraine did secure all of its land, Russia would almost certainly continue fighting along the border to prevent it from joining any alliance like NATO. It seemed the best anyone hoped for is that there would be enough pressure applied to Russia that something changed within where they gave up on the war.
If Russia comes out of this conflict with any gains at all that could be construed as “worth it” for their side it will be an open invitation to keep invasions on the table as a method to apply again in the near future.
Russia is literally the biggest country in the world with massive natural resources and very low population density. The idea that Russia will sacrifice its relatively small population for the sake of additional territorial gains is preposterous.
They’re literally doing that right now, though
They’re fighting against NATO expansion to Russia’s border which they have been warning against for over a decade now. Even Stoltenberg admits this now:
I thought Putin said it was because “Ukraine is a neo-nazi regime”?
No, wait, he said it was because the west were using Ukraine to base their weapons
Oh, nevermind, I forgot that there is no such thing as Ukraine, it’s all part of Russia
Oh, or is it because the west are gay paedophilic gender-neutral-god-worshipping heathens
Or was it because Ukraine was planning to pretend Russia nuked them first so that they could actually declare war on Russia
Ah, was it to defend Donetsk and Luhansk’s independence? Or are they part of Russia?
Or is it that Ukraine has a government with no control, where the streets of Kiev are a lawless purge?
I seem to have lost track of why he’s invading. Could you clarify for me?
Ukraine being a neo-nazi regime doing ethnic cleansing in Donbas and planning to host NATO weapons that can strike within Russia are precisely in line with the problem of NATO expansion. Incredible that you’re unable to understand how a single overarching problem can have multiple aspects to it. Hope that clarified things for you.
And how do the gay paedophile heretics fit into your overarching problem?
Wait till you find out what the banderite stance on gay pedophile heretics is.
