For context: The thread was about why people hate Hexbear and Lemmygrad instances

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      https://mronline.org/2019/01/15/britain-robbed-india-of-45-trillion-thence-1-8-billion-indians-died-from-deprivation/

      There’s a couple

      https://homework.study.com/explanation/how-many-people-died-under-the-rule-of-the-british-east-india-company.html

      Here’s a couple more.

      20-50k due to homeless per year in just one capitalist country: https://nhchc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Section-1-Toolkit.pdf

      And then there’s the 250,000 expected per year and increasing due to climate change from capitalism wanting to not do anything to hurt profits of big oil : https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/climate-change-and-health

      That’s me lazily grabbing things. I could do this all day but it’s depressing as fuck and it won’t stop you tongue fucking a corpo’s asshole so it seems pointless. Hope that helped!

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          Those were not on purpose. But were definitely made worse through the actions of dogmatic uneducated authoritarians much like capitalism. However, the fact that it happened to leninists involuntarily doesn’t justify capitalist doing it purposefully.

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            Holodomor

            …also known as the Great Ukrainian Famine, was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.

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              It wasn’t man-made lol. There were famines going on in the United States too. Dust bowl anyone? And I said they exacerbated it. You simply proved my own point for me and failed to state your case.

              Let me give you some advice on debating or trying to discuss things. You should refrain from it.

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        See what you just wrote there. Every single person. That is so utterly ridiculous thing to say.

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          Every single person.

          I think they were adding that anyone who has starved under these regimes should be counted in the needless deaths alongside the genocides

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      People who have died trying to ration insulin, due to how in the US it’s made by for-profit corporations, diabetes care requires many other ridiculously expensive supplies, and the system is set up to require expensive doctor office visits and insurance to maintain a prescription, though type 1 diabetes is life-long. Plenty of other medical examples also.

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        That’s because the US healthcare system is garbage.

        Look across Western Europe and they don’t have those issues, despite having a lot of private involvement in their healthcare.

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          No kidding. But it’s specifically capitalist garbage and it’s the for- profit companies involved in it top to bottom who strongly resist reforms. They invest millions and millions in lobbying and with propagandizing the populace anytime Congress starts seriously looking at changing anything. And I mean hell, we even have TV commercials for prescription drugs.

          I’m sure it would be possible to make a capitalist, private, for profit healthcare system that isn’t abusive. For a while, maybe, since the nature of capitalism is to grow to extract as much from consumers as possible. In any event, that’s not what we have in the United States, and it does cause people to die.