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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Windows just kinda works

    This is how you made clear that you aren’t very experienced. The type of shit that goes wrong with Linux and Windows has a lot of overlap. The difference being that if Linux breaks you have a chance to learn something and fix it. Whereas when Windows inevitably bricks your system with a shitty update that got force installed, you normally have to reinstall your OS

    Just admit that your issue with Linux is that you learned a thing and don’t want to learn another because you’re a lazy coward.

      • MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        never had Windows brick on me

        Congrats, if that’s true. You’re the exception, not the rule. Windows has bricked itself on several users with a couple of updates before tho (and I know this because one of those is exactly when i learned how much of a removed it can be to actually install on your system), and a quick basic search proves that yeah, this isn’t some rare thing, the OS tends to do that sometimes to the frustration of many.

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          1 year ago

          You actually legitimately think windows bricking itself is a rule? That the most used OS in pcs just shits itself yet people still continue using it? I mean, have you considered that there might be a reason why linux is only used in backend server voodoo things and toothbrushes?

          • MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml
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            1 year ago

            It’s not what I think tho, it’s what’s written by others…unless I’m somehow imagining actual search results of people detailing their experiences of their machine, yes. bricking themselves. That, or Google results and Microsoft’s own forum posts are lying. Along with several other threads, videos, and examples. Which i very much douvt is the case here.

            It’s a man-made thing. No man-made thing is infallible. They can and sometimes do break or mess up. That shouldn’t be hard to understand, i should think

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              That, or Google results and Microsoft’s own forum posts are lying. Along with several other threads, videos, and examples. Which i very much douvt is the case here.

              Me neither

              https://askubuntu.com/questions/1098986/my-linux-install-bricked-itself-acpi-couldnt-get-size-0x800000000000000e-and

              Oh

              https://old.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/ryw8ya/if_only_i_had_a_dollar_everytime_i_bricked_an/

              Ooof. That thread is actually a gold mine for linuxboys ahaha, My bricking-my-linux-jar got like 10 coins over the last 25 years. holy shit he bricks his PC around every 2 and a half years, that is actually bad, I’ve had windows installs for at least 5 years easily, I only reinstall with new SSDs.

              https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=149758

              Everything was going fine, until I executed this command: efibootmgr -c -g -d /dev/sdX -p Y -w -L “Arch Linux (rEFInd)” -l ‘\EFI\arch\refind\refindx64.efi’

              Like of course if the OS you’re using has you summon a fucking demon then yeah it’s a bad OS

              https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/help-fedora-just-randomly-deleted-hours-of-my-work-and-bricked-itself-all-on-its-own/78486?page=7

              Okay done googling now but oh damn that’s a goldmine, thanks for pointing me to that direction, it does prove a point. My point.

              • MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml
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                1 year ago

                Still doesn’t disprove my point that Windows bricking itself is a thing that happens:

                https://www.minitool.com/backup-tips/bricked-computer.html

                Qoute: “PC bricked issue often occurs, especially you have installed a Windows 10 update. When searching for “bricked computer” in Google, there are many forums on this topic…Well then, how can you fix the bricked computer in Windows 10/8/7 if the brick is caused by the operating system itself (soft brick)?”

                https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-updates-keep-bricking-my-laptop/7eb5ac2d-fff0-41a7-b008-c59946be4333

                https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/windows-10-pc-bricked-overnight-please-help.3599394/

                “I think its important to point out that Windows has been forcing updates on me that just bluescreen me. Once i blue screen it resets the system to its original config and it boots normally. When asked to schedule a time for the update, I chose 4/27. Sure enough after that, cant boot once.”

                https://www.reddit.com/r/ZephyrusG14/comments/pguu58/recent_windows_11_update_bricked_my_g14/

                First comment: “This is related to Windows 11, everyone is facing the same issue right now. It seems to be due to an expiring certificate.”

                And we can keep going. Microsoft can screw up and ship an update that bricks your hardware. It’s happened before, and will continue to happen again. (And just so we’re clear: Ubuntu, Red Hat or other Linux maintainers, and even Apple with their products, are not exempt from this either. They’re also human and can mess up. But we’re not talking about Linux or Mac, we’re talking about Windows sometimes bricking itself, so they’re irrelevant to this conversation) Why you’re so adamant on denying it ever happens on Windows even tho evidence is a search away and instead paint it as solely a Linux problem is beyond me

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                  My friend all he is saying is that Windows doesn’t brick itself as a rule, not that it doesn’t happen.

                  You’re both being pretty biased. Windows isn’t as terrible as you portray nor Linux as bad as he does.

                  Obviously Linux wins overall though ;)

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                    His other comments seem to imply that since it didn’t happen to them, it doesn’t happen on Windows period. That’s just rejecting reality.

                    I’ve never protrayed Windows as overly terrible in my comments in this thread…or at least, I didn’t mean to if it came out that way (i stand with it being a hassle to actually get it installed tho. Had to jump through so many hoops just for it to pick up the only drive plugged into my PC and recognize “oh hey, it’s a valid drive”. And this was Win10, not 11 either). Windows as an OS is fine, and has its own problems and quirks just like every other OS in existance does. If anything my problem with it comes from Microsoft basically going “no, you’re going to use the OS you paid a liscene for how we say” and them (I assume it’s them, anyways) reverting several of the changes I made to my settings with updates + it being so heavy to install–to where laptops and such that CAN’T handle it still come shipped with it by default despite preforming horribly because of it. But i never brought any of those up, just the fact that one of those updates messed up my install so bad I had to do a re-install, and it was annoying to actually do. I didn’t call it a devil worship machine or whatever the heck the other guy keeps calling Linux lol

                • SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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                  1 year ago

                  And we can keep going

                  We both can, which is why I thought it was weird you brought it up in the first place. Someone said on an internet forum something so it must be true, you probably read that linux is good and actually believed it lmao, look at you defending your bad decision by grasping for straws here.

        • SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Then I don’t think you’ve met many people.

          I mean I don’t talk about PCs a lot with my peers, but I’ve never heard anyone mention their PCs bricked. I’ve heard a lot about android phones shitting themselves but they aren’t based off of windows. Can’t remember what kernel android’s based off of, can you help reminding me?

          Feel free to copy the below for yourself

          - SaakoPaahtaa