• TheWiseAlaundo@lemmy.whynotdrs.org
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        8 months ago

        I’m just gonna play devil’s advocate here.

        Before the invention of the police, communities took it upon themselves to enforce the law. Oftentimes, militia members would directly write to governors asking for arms, and would also be present in their communities during public events where an armed presence might be necessary. Arrests for members of the community would happen by way of court order first, and then a posse would be formed as a means to enact that court order. Nowhere in the US constitution does the word “police” appear because the idea hadn’t even been conceived at the time of foundation.

        Comparatively, today’s police have far more authority to enact violence and effect arrests than even the courts. Could a court today order a dog to maul a surrendering man? Probably not. But when the police do it, apparently, that’s just the cost of doing business.

        I think the lie is that we need the police and not the other way around.

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          8 months ago

          We need a complete overhaul of society and an educated population to help reduce the incentive to commit crime in the first place, then use the wonders of the high technology we have to make investigating crimes easier for everybody so we can go back to taking control of our own streets again.

          It’d take a lot of work to do it, but it’s better than submitting to actual fucking fascism and tyranny because we convince ourselves we’re not capable and need others to do the job of protecting each other for us.

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        8 months ago

        Dude, their existence prevents the meaningful enforcement of the law. Literally anyone else could do a better job than some thug caste which only pretends to enforce law but doesn’t.

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          8 months ago

          You haven’t answered the question. Who should enforce the law? I’m not sure if you have a problem with the concept of police or with the implementation thereof.

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            8 months ago

            And here’s bootlicker #2 up in here sealioning just like the other guy, and my response is the same.

            You’d think if they actually were asking in good faith, they’d scroll down to talk to the guy who actually does answer the question at length, but they don’t, so it’s obvious they’re not actually interested.

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              8 months ago

              Bro, I’m asking you for your thoughts on an alternative and you just rage on about some perceived slight to your intelligence or what not.

              If you don’t have an alternative, then say so. Stop beating around the bush pretending to hoard some plan you do not possess. It wasn’t a difficult fucking question you nutjob.