There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine, with some of them even blatantly saying they support Putin and some others trying to put into doubt evidence of Russian crimes (kidnapping children etc.)

I have been banned from world by @[email protected] for calling one of them out. Also both of my comments, the one in the screenshot and another one where I explain to another user that he is arguing with paid Russian troll have been removed.

  • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    Accusing a user of being a paid troll account is against the rules in most instances, even if you somehow have strong evidence for it.

    It’s an unfalsifiable claim and is frequently used as a way to harass another user over a disagreement.

    YDI.

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      17 days ago

      It is enough to look at this user commenting history to substantiate the claim.

      If you see a nazi, say “nazi”

      If you see a Russian troll, say “Russian troll”.

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        16 days ago

        Like I said, its not about having evidence or not. It’s a disingenuous way of harassing someone for having an opinion you disagree with.

        If the opinion is a rule-breaking one, then report it. If it isn’t, find a more constructive way to deal with your disagreement.

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          Too many people (myself included) learned to focus on the person, instead of the idea.

          That leads to sophist arguments (“you’re a troll”), rather than searching for the truth that lies somewhere between different viewpoints.

          It’s not easy to keep in mind and to find ways to stay on the subject.

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              12 days ago

              No, if you see a nazi or troll call it out so that administration can remove it and keep the community healthy. Do not turn a blind eye to a fucking nazi bar.

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                12 days ago

                Im sorry but im not that nice. I want to block him till the administration deals with his account and he makes an alt I have to then block.

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        17 days ago

        That’s interesting, because when I say “Nazi”, you say “Russian troll”. Maybe you have your favorite Nazis after all?

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        16 days ago

        Being a paid troll is one thing. If I see someone spreading pro fascist propaganda, I wouldn’t call them paid, but I would absolutely call them out on promoting fascist propaganda

      • Evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        16 days ago

        The issue is, you just broke rules too.

        Next time.

        Just report him or say something more civil. But honestly if you see a rule breaker just report him.

        It’s like kinda like real life you don’t deal with criminals the justical system in this case mods and admins do.