ive been using kodi (xbmc was better moniker) since google killed sagetv. i recall attempting plex, but it seemed to lack some open/extensibility (its been awhile).

i have a side project i want to make as a modular plugin generating a cable layout with original air orders and networks/channels… kodi seems most optimal, but ill admit its been a long while since i looked at plex.

so why plex over kodi?

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    For me, Plex or Jellyfin is great if I want to share my library with some friends or family, especially non-technical people. Kodi really needs tinkering and you need debrid subscriptions and requires more local maintenance. It’s great for me but I wouldn’t want to teach my family how to use Kodi and me having to fix it when it breaks.

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        For local use it’s handy that those Kodi instances share their database so watched state and crucially how far into the episode/movie you are. You can do a shared database with just Kodi but I don’t think that’s optimal. Jellyfin integrates so well and handles the database stuff much better imo so I just use that.

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      You don’t need debrid for Kodi. There’s a torrent streaming app.

      But yeah Kodi is a lot to teach if you’re talking about maintenance. I’ve also had some bugs on Ubuntu and Fedora.

      I stay with Kodi because it’s faster ime and looks better (not the default skin) and works better with a remote. But I also keep jelly fin installed and running from the same nas.

      Kodi for home, jellyfin for phones and guest homes. Trakt on both to keep them in sync.

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        Once I used Kodi with real-debrid, I don’t want to go back to streaming torrents. It is much faster and much more reliable.

        My setup is a Shield TV Pro using Kodi with the Jellyfin plugin then use Umbrella for anything I don’t have locally. Gave my family a Firestick with Jellyfin and then they can request through Jellyseerr which then feeds through to *arr stack. I don’t mind if I have to fix my end but I don’t want to fix theirs.

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    Totally different software solutions aimed at different users, and many people use both.

    Plex is a Server software that handles media management, libraries, users, etc etc… and a range of player apps that have a somewhat beginner friendly layout requiring little to no setup

    Personally, I run a large Plex server that provides content for my family across dozens of mixed devices in home and out of home, different users have access to different libraries and have different preferences. If needed it will automatically transcode content for remote users out of the home to fit my upload bandwidth and their available speed if they are on mobile. it keeps track of watched content and position for all users so they can move between devices seamlessly.

    Kodi is an extensible media player frontend, it can play files from a remote server or NAS but there is no server management, it is just doing basic file access. there are addons for many common services and media sources but there is no user management, no transcoding, no sharing content with other clients etc etc. Having multiple kodi installs on multiple players requires each client to be configured more or less from scratch and no easy way to have multiple setups for different users with their own preferences, libraries and/or content restrictions. It is extremely powerful and configurable and has strong format support.

    I have Kodi installed on one of my Nvidia Shield Pros but only use it for playback of surround music files (support for 5.1 flac on plex seems to be limited to audio within video containers for some reason) I find the interface (and all the skins I tried) extremely clunky for use as a music player, the way the remote works within the player itself is unintuitive and makes for an annoying experience restarting the track when you just want to move the playback a few seconds, a bit unfair of course as that isn’t what it was made for but that’s just my experience.

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      Same here. Plex just makes sharing with family so much simpler. My mom and dad can figure it out just as easily as my kids can and the amount of time I have to do tech support for anyone has been literal zero, which is a huge bonus for me, personally.

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      Ya Plex vs Kodi is really more an apples and oranges comparison. Should be Plex vs Jellyfin.

      That said though, I did start off with Kodi as my own media center on a Raspberry Pi, but eventually discovered Jellyfin and have really enjoyed it. Kodi is great too, but I think Jellyfin is the more refined modern streaming equivalent akin to Netflix that’s fully open source unlike Plex.

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    Plex is just more user friendly than Kodi. And the real question should be why Plex instead of Jellyfin, and my answer to that is:
    I’ve already set up the Plex server and it works, I don’t really want to go through the trouble of switching over if everything is working fine the way it is right now

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      Even though I’m big on FOSS, that seems like a completely reasonable take. Though I think Jellyfin integrates with Kodi much better. Last time I used Kodi + Plex, Plex was its own app inside Kodi. Meanwhile, with Jellyfin it just populates your regular Kodi with the media without you even noticing that the source is Jellyfin and not say your hdd.

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      Because Plex makes it so much easier for me to share my stuff with my brother who doesn’t live in the same house.

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      Because my current TV is a Samsung so runs Tizen OS and thus doesn’t have an official Jellyfin app.

      (I bought it before I ever got into NAS stuff and it still works fine so I’ll be damned if I buy another TV before this one stops working.)

       


      Edit: A word.

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      Jellyfin is great and I follow its development and test it every now an then but it is nowhere near fully featured or well supported enough or me to transfer my family over to.

      I will eventually, when it’s ready.

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          Plex is based on XBMC/ KODI, and both excel at basically being a VLC - playing anything and everything locally or over the LAN. Jellyfin on the other hand is excellent at creating a personal Netflix you can access from outside your network, but because it runs through the browser youre more likely to have transcoding issues and you’re not going to have that Swiss-army knife, can-play-everything-you-throw-at-it like Kodi and Plex can. I use both.

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      kodi is more ‘media center’…audio/video/static imaging…hell, plugins to gaming… jellyfin/emby is an excellent transcoding/end-user-streaming platform. i see them as complimentary to eachother

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      Kodi has a nicer interface imo. Kodi as the player and Jellyfin as the “backend” is a great combo imo.

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        I know they could close up shop tomorrow, but the one-time-purchase of plexpass beats any sort of ongoing subscription. It does a great job of finding subtitles, it doesn’t care how shit my file/folder structure is, and the client is user friendly for the rest of the house.

        I prefer jellyfin, but I haven’t taken the time to get my library in the right layout for jellyfin to display it right.

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      Because some people prefer plex and being a (optionally) paid product it will very likely receive more and better updates.

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    Well, I use plex, because I have used plex for a decade, and it just works.

    That being said, if I were to use an alternative, Jellyfin is quite fantastic. I actually have a pod running it, just in the event that plex pulls a stupid move, causing me to lose faith in its platform.

    But, that being said, I like the plex interface more then Jellyfin, and have grown accustomed to it.

    Also, Kodi while powerful and extensible… just feels like a bear compared to Jellyfin.

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    They’re for different things: Kodi is supposed to be used only on one system inside your network and is full of eye candy. It’s roots are as a media app and dashboard for the original Xbox. It doesn’t have any streaming functionality, it expects the media to be available locally (either physically attached or over a network share attached to the local system).

    Plex was originally designed as a media server and has a Client-Server model to support multiple clients both inside and outside the network. It’s more about functionality than looks. It was built from the ground up for streaming.

    You can use the Kodi frontend with the Plex backend with a Kodi plugin called PlexForKodi. Same goes for Jellyfin.

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    I can use Plex on my PS5 and share it with my friends without having to do DevOps work.

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    Plex was an easy to set up Netflix at home deal with apps on all my devices already for viewing ($5 one time fee for Android, less than a burger) and had some nice tutorials for setting up on a Pi.

    Adding stuff is literally drag drop thanks to Samba. Stupid easy for me.

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    Because I paid for a lifetime sub like a decade ago and my parents and a few friends connect to my instance. I can’t be arsed to move myself and everybody else to a new system when this shit just works.

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    I never had what I felt was good performance from Kodi. Of course it might have just been my configuration across the times I used it, but Kodi always felt laggy / slow.

    I moved from plex to jellyfin, both of which feel more snappy

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    Much easier to set up and share with others. Kodi takes a lot of back end work to make it usable and I’m having a hell of a time getting consistent results to different devices from my NAS.

    Plex took far less effort to do the same results but their paywall certainly justifies their ease of use

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      Strange. Kodi for me was a breeze to set up. Set up a file source, set the client to update library on start up, tweak your thumbnails and skin preferences, done.

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        My difficulty lies in consistency across multiple devices, it’s a process that i haven’t been able to overcome easily and though i learned SQL my NAS is a bit closed though so I may upgrade that soon

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    My issue with Kodi is that each client had to scan the library and generate thumbnails etc. That should be the server’s job which is why I chose Jellyfin. Nicer UI too and more responsive with apps in stores so I don’t have to load it manually to fire sticks

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      This is true, it’s just not that much of a hassle if you only have 1 or 2 clients. Anymore, and yeah I can appreciate Kodi setup can get messy.