• Ooops@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    That’s an interesting headline… what did they expect instead? “After 18 months of only giving Ukraine a fraction of what we can spare for laughs and giggles we now probably need to actually support them for once to replace the missing US aid”?

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      11 months ago

      How much money would be enough so that you don’t call it laughs and giggles anymore?

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    The US is effectively acting as a guarantor of EU safety, the EU should let us fly our sick people over there for treatment IMO. Because our sick staying sick are the reason we can afford to have a military that could arm the entire world. Their safety is being subsidized by US citizens health.

    “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.”

    A quote from a US President that I think means more than some sourceless internet comments implying the size of US millitary has nothing to do with the US’s lack of social servies. Argue with the president.

    Never thought I’d get this much flac for arguing that the over funding the US military negatively impacts the US’s social welfare on lemmy of all places.

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      11 months ago

      US spends more on healthcare per capita than any other country. The reason why you can’t afford medical bills is because of for-profit health insurance companies. They pocket billions every year.

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        They spend more and get less, look at the deliverables not the money spent. The US also has among the highest costs of healthcare, of course they spend more, it costs 30k to have a baby there, that doesn’t mean they’re getting child bearing care Europeans are not.

        The reason we have companies with this much power is that the government stays out of healthcare and doesn’t help negotiate prices. Probably because they’re busy finding lower bidders for their Military projects. Theres no world in which US citizens don’t incur suffering to fund their military. The US even at peacetime is running more military operations than the next ten militaries if you count all their overseas bases. All of that takes time money and labor away from social needs, necessarily.

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      11 months ago

      The US could cut its military budget by half and still continue to do what they do

      They waste a huge amount of money for literally nothing just like their police force

      There are too many ineffective middlemen

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        Source for that wild claim that half of the largest budget in the US doesn’t go to weapons manufacturing, soldiers, or necessary administration? If the US budget was cut in half there would be a West Russia today. If you want safety in your continent to be guarenteed by American citizen suffering just say so like the rest of the Americans who support their own military but acting like the MIC has nothing to do with the state of social services in America is hilarious.

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        To keep spying on their allies like was uncovered years bacn and promoting their corporate interests, same as much of Europe does to Africa, I’m not sure how that diminishes the fact that US citizens suffering is fuling the budgets that Ukraine gets, I got no problem they get that money, but Europe could stand to give what they can and they have a robust health network, not a robust military complex. You act like the corporate neo colonialism is benefitting US citizens and easing their suffering when all it does is boost the stock market lining the pockets of those who funded the economic colonialism in the first place. The US is the last country on earth this Russian Invasion would materially effect yet they’re doing more legwork than countries that can heard the missle blasts.

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    11 months ago

    What will Biden sacrifice to pass Ukrainian aid through the budget? Healthcare? Education? Social support? Clean energy? Semiconductors? Space exploration? The prevailing position in Washington is that China is the greater threat to American hegemony, so how much is Biden willing to cut to fight a war against Russia?

    He’s lacking power in the House and Republicans will gladly extract concessions out of him leading up to the next election.

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        I mean the Republican Party acts in benefit of Russia at every opportunity. They’re gonna ramp up the faux news propaganda, vilify ukraine using ork rhetoric that their brain dead supporters fall for, and make it a wedge issue in 2024. Guaranteed.