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Donald Trump and Republican lawmakers are pushing to classify vandalism against Tesla as domestic terrorism.

Trump declared that those damaging Tesla dealerships would face terrorism charges, calling the company “a great American company.”

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene and others urged the FBI and Attorney General to investigate alleged Democrat-linked NGOs behind Tesla attacks, though no evidence was provided.

Greene may have violated House ethics rules by advocating for Tesla while owning its stock.

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    “terrorist” has been so overused it no longer means much of anything. Like so many other words.

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    Good to know that all that “George Soros interfering with muh freedums” was bullshit projection.

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    Serious question: Historically, has a fascist movement ever been put down without the use of violence?

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      It always ends in violence. The kind of person that creates these racist movements simply does not operate with a human mentality. They wake up in the morning and their first conscious thought is to benefit themselves, the second one is hurting others to benefit themselves. They are pure evil.

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      Not once the ball gets rolling, no. Plenty of Fascism has been averted through preemptive nonviolent action though. In fact, that’s basically how Democracy works; Constant nonviolent vigilance keeping Fascism at bay. But once Fascism gains traction, the only thing that works to get rid of it is violence. More people need to understand this. It’s like that Kyle Reese speech in the first Terminator movie.

      “It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop… ever, until you are dead!”

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        I think that ended with the death of their fascist leader and then a peaceful transition towards democracy. So it can happen but only if your leader dies and the successor wants to reform the country back to democracy.

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        So much violence in Francos regime. Between 100,000 and 200,000 killed, with 500,000 fleeing into france. Absolute bloodbath. May he rot in hell forever.

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          I thought I had heard that, but again, Spanish history past Christopher Columbus isn’t really taught in the US.

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            Its too bad because world history is chock full of great stories about humanity. And US history is often boring and contrived propoganda.

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              We’re getting old enough to have some interesting history now. And in the last 30 years there has been more movement to bring to light stories from those mostly ignored. That may change now, since anything that doesn’t describe the US as the best… whatever, will likely be banned or silenced.

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    “Who is behind it? Who is funding it? Is there a link with Democrat-leaning NGOs [non-governmental organizations]?” Greene wrote Wednesday on X, hinting at some kind of nefarious conspiracy.

    Have you considering the 2 million or so federal workers who were fired thanks to DOGE with Musks face plastered all over it? Pretty big axe to grind there.

    Fucking jackasses.

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    There is a lot of shit people aren’t doing because they don’t want to cross the line and become domestic terrorists. You do NOT want to move that line over them.

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    Quick history moment:

    The US government has always treated politically motivated vandalism as domestic terrorism.

    The FBI defined Earth First!, Earth Liberation Front, and similar radical environmental groups as terrorist organizations decades ago, because they spiked trees and burnt subdivisions and SUV dealerships.

    The Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act makes it an act of terrorism to vandalize a factory farm or animal research lab - even nonviolent protest that “intimidates” employees is illegal.

    Some of y’all are acting like burning car dealerships was protected speech before Trump. Come on.

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      It’s not that. The law will be written vaguely enough to apply to people keying cars or slapping a sticker on them. You should probably start paying more attention. Fascism loves to creep like this.

      This coupled with the Laken Reilly act will be used to disappear people. They’ll continue writing even more vague laws to classify people as terrorists. And the whole time half this country will just nod their heads and say “yea, makes sense to me. Those guys are bad guys”. At least until they come for them or someone they know personally.

      If they revoke your greencard then they’ll use the same logic to revoke citizenship for immigrants. Then they’ll start revoking citizenship for children of immigrants born here. Then anyone that is a “terrorist threat”.

      Your history is correct. But this is not the same. Don’t fall for the reasoning given by fascist for why they want to implement new laws. Ask yourself: if the laws are already on the books to allow these acts of violence to be classified as domestic terrorism then why do they need a new law?

      It’s because that new law is gonna give them much more power while needing far less (or no) evidence.

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      This goes a bit further than that. They are trying to make spray-painting “ASSHOLE” on a Tesla an act of terrorism akin to burning down a Tesla factory. The two are not the same. This kind of law would make every graffiti artist a terrorist. That’s not what anti-terrorism laws should be used for.

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    Trying to pin it on Democrats who supposedly funded it is pretty far out. Come on. How much funding does someone really need to make a fire?

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      Dude I want to live in this world where the Democratic party is so far left that they’re burning Teslas and talking about seizing the means of production from Elons factories. I really wish the Democrats were HALF as radical as these idiots on the right pretend they are.

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    OK, I’m going to commit international terrorism: fuck muskrat! muskdie!

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    Bruh…

    I emigrated from a country that makes it illegal to criticize leaders

    only to end up in a country that is also about to make criticizing leaders illegal.

    Just… wow

    (from PRC to USA)

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      Come to UK / Europe. We’ve got universal healthcare and more robust democracy and many centurys long tradition of criticising and mocking our leaders.

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      Torching and destroying cars and dealerships isnt the same as some critical speech… The title is just a complete clickbait fabrication…

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        If someone can’t say that Israel is wiping innocent lives off their homeland in a fashion that can only be described as a genocide without it being deemed illegal and grounds for a criminal offense and/or other punishments, freedom of speech does not exist. It is in no way anti semitism. Israel is a state, not a religion. Long before Israel was paying politicians in the U.S. for their states best interests whether for the good of humanity or not, Jewish people existed, and long after the U.S. and Israel are gone, Judiasm will likely be here. Judiasm isn’t asking them to murder children, politicians are ordering it.

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        Torching and destroying cars is already illegal. No reason to designate it as domestic terrorism.

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          If they are considered terrorists, it is easier for MAGA to justify sending them to the concentration camps in Guantanamo or El Salvador.

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            Is that the second one, with the 3rd trying to be in Costa Rica? I knew they were moving people to a more wooded area but I didn’t know where in central/south America it was.

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    What a bunch of snowflakes. What’s wrong? Are we hurting his feelings? The richest douchebag, who doesn’t know what he’s doing, with his head is so far up his own ass I’m sure he can taste it, doesn’t like being called what he is? 🎻

    Fuck him. I have no pity for fascists. 🖕🏾