• Bonifratz@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    offer nothing in return

    Warmth, company, fun…? Also, the experience of being responsible for and caring for another being can be very valuable.

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      1 day ago

      Not to me, sorry. What benefit could i have from “caring for another being”? Me, personally? The other being, yes, maybe. But me? I could never care ADEQUATELY for any animal. they don’t belong in my company/house. Just because we domesticated the fuck outta them doesn’t make it better. And i also couldn’t neuter them or feed them this disgusting shit we call pet-food. And also I don’t want to take out the shit of others :-)

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          They actually do. Not that this is either anything of your concern nor the point. And guess what, friends are people i care about that I CHOSE TO. They didn’t get bought in a pet-shop and were forced to be in my vicinity, nor suddenly appeared in my house as strays. You maybe see the point somewhere there.

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              11 hours ago

              I don’t understand that either, I dislike slavery, i even pay our maid double because i feel bad she works for us. But it’s not like I’d force her to, like I’d force a pet to do so.

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                10 hours ago

                I… What would you force your pet to do again?

                I need you to understand, nobody, except like dog fighting idiots is forcing their pets. A pet is around and chill with that, otherwise the whole thing is not enjoyable… fish maybe? But you seem to miss a fundamental piece of understanding about pets, and that’s fine but why announce your position about something you just never got to experience? Envy? You know you could get a pet today. And it would be a friend. Most likely. And that feels good. It’s a very basic human emotion you are trying to discredit here. And I will stress again, if you want to, you can go and get a pet whenever. It’s not like being with other’s pets.

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                  5 hours ago

                  Ah come on. At first you gonna rob the house-animal of it’s basic functions. Like procreating. Then the dog goes on a leash, the cat (unless you just let it roam freely) is confined to your house. Then you’re the ultimate master of its fate. Not enough money for the extremely expensive operation needed? Euthanasia it is then. Do you feed it like it would feed itself? Or simply put, would you treat your kid the same like your dog? Does it receive the mystery-horror that is canned food? Oh and the food itself is (partly) a horribly murdered non-house-pet-animal. Doesn’t this one deserve your love and care too?

                  And btw I had pets once. Dogs and a cat actually. And I did everything for those lil shits up to the very last minute. But they were kinda “forced” onto me, I would never ever willingly get a pet. And however you might see this, to me it is no kind of “friendship”. It’s ownership. Literally and even legally speaking. I don’t like this concept.

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            My point?

            What benefit could i have from “caring for another being”? Me, personally? The other being, yes, maybe. But me? I could never care ADEQUATELY for any animal.

            Hypothetically, if someone that was very close to you was in a terrible accident at has become paralyzed and no longer capable of taking care of themselves. What benefit do you have in taking care of them. Will you just abandon them? I would hope you are not cold hearted as such. Obviously there is such benefit as companionship with another living creature. Im not judging you for not wanting a pet, i dont have one myself. But you are coming off very cold.

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              12 hours ago

              You must’ve totally misinterpreted. Of course I’d care for those close to me. Even without having any benefit for me. But those people I selected. They didn’t just wander into my house like a stray and decided my decisions. I actually work for free in my spare-time with abused people. Just because it’s a thing a civilized species should do, but sadly doesn’t.

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                9 hours ago

                Do you think people go “oh darn… a stray managed to get by my defenses, i guess they live with me now”?..

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                  5 hours ago

                  That is literally was i was lectured on here about. History of the domestication of house-cats :) And no, i can’t imagine people actually doing that. That was my whole point.