Not the bad porn script you were expecting, I swear. š
So hereās one for fans of grey areas.
SO has brought two daughters and a son into our relationship. Theyāre all young adults now. We generally get along well and Iām a trusted third party and, according to the then-minor younger daughter, a good source for pregnancy tests and the such ābecause youāre the least likely to freak outā.
Weāre generally a very open and judgement-free family, and Iām immensely proud of the fact that the kids feel comfortable talking freely about love and sex with both of us despite their ātraditionalā catholic indoctrination upbringing. Weāve established that we can talk about anything but wonāt go into detail about their or my personal preferences. This works very well and thereās a lot of trust. Whenever their motherās not around, the kids talk to me about whateverās on their mind (anything really, not just love/sex stuff).
Thereās one thing that makes me slightly uncomfortable though, and Iām not sure if Iām the one whoās at fault here. Itās the older daughterās choice of clothing at home. Especially in summer and near the pool, she often walks around in a t-shirt or scant bikini top and panties whose front just about covers the crack and whose back leaves nothing to the imagination.
Iām very happy that sheās both happy enough with her body and feels comfortable enough around me to walk around this way. Especially the former has been a bit of work on her motherās part.
Now my own background is that I come from a very uptight family myself (sex is an evil and shameful thing that the wife endures because she owes it to her husband) but am very open now (swinger clubs, former co-host for BDSM meetings etc.). I also have a minor degree in both communication and sex therapy.
Still you never entirely shake off an upbringing based entirely on shame and guilt, and occasionally thereās a situation that instinctively makes me uncomfortable, but upon closer inspection I conclude that it really shouldnāt.
Iām currently trying to figure out whether this is one of those false-alarm situations, and it really bothers me.
On the one hand, āyou donāt wear that kind of outfit in front of men youāre not biologically related to.ā
On the other hand, why not? She should be able to wear whatever sheās comfortable with in the privacy of our home. And you canāt make a request such as ādress more modestlyā without it smelling of misogyny.
On the other other hand, it would definitely be inappropriate for her to walk around entirely in the nude, so thereās got to be a line somewhere.
(Let me add that sheās never even remotely tried anything, and I really donāt think of her in āthatā way, so thatās not the issue.)
TL;DR: Adult stepdaughter sometimes wears revealing clothes, makes me uncomfortable, not sure if itās supposed to. Nothing fishy going on.
EDIT: Wow, so much food for thought. I donāt think Iām going to be able to reply to everyone individually, but Iāve come to realize that what makes me uncomfortable is probably the idea that she or other people around us might feel uncomfortable, and in the classic stepfather-stepdaughter constellation I could be seen as a potential āperpetratorā, which Iād need to protect myself against. So itās really just mostly me worrying about what other people might think (but probably donāt).
But the point is, if sheās comfortable thereās really nothing tangible for me to worry about.
You bring up an interesting point, and I have an answer in my head that makes perfect sense to me, Iām just not sure I have the vocabulary to convey it.
A lot of sex- or genitalia-related things (or intimate things in general) depend on the context more than on the act itself - e.g. even though my urologist has seen & handled my wedding tackle in the past (and Iāve even paid him for it!), it would be considered rather unprofessional of him to want to do exactly the same thing if we happened to meet at the pub. My masseuse only touches my butt during a massage, etc.
Nudity is not a bad thing as such. Itās just that weāre not a nudist family at all, and so if anyone walked around in the nude, it would be way beyond the social norms (for lack of a better word) that we as a family have been practicing for years. I would at the very least expect them to give us a heads-up and explain to us why they suddenly want to stop wearing clothes.
The social norms we have donāt always make perfect sense, but may still be important to either maintain or challenge as a group because other peopleās comfort zones depend on them.
Also, as a male in the perfect age group for a mid-life crisis interacting with impressionable young females that are somewhat dependent on me, I always feel like I need to be super-duper extra cautious.
I hope that makes sense.
Hehehā¦ āwedding tackleāā¦ niccceeeee
See, now this is where I would disagree. How much should society care about an individualās comfort zone? What if I hate seeing gay men? Should gays be banned from existence because I feel uncomfortable around them? What if I donāt like women showing their hair? Should then we criminalize women not wearing hijabs?
This is the way I see it. If an individualās freedom to do act A adversely affects another individualās āfreedom to liveā above a certain limit, then and only then must Act A must be criminalized. If I am sexually touched without my consent, then it encroaches upon my freedom to live. This is because being touched without consent has demonstrable ramifications on my mental health, which statistically have further ramifications on my will to live. However, seeing someone naked does not have any of these consequences. This is demonstrable by comparing different cultures around the world.
Now for the ānormā part, I get it. Is it ādifferentā or āout of the ordinaryā for someone to suddenly be naked in a non-nudist family like yours? Sure. It is also natural that you would be curious as to why someone would be doing something like this. Youāre right. Context matters. However, context is also set by humans, right? Which means, that the rules of permissibility can be modified or maintained by these very humans.
In your specific case, there are two possibilities: your daughter is being nude-ish intentionally or unintentionally. From what youāve written, chances are that sheās doing it unintentionally. This then makes stuff quite easy. Does her nudity affect you in ways you cannot control? Examples of such scenarios that I can think of would be āI was sexually assaulted, and the sight of women bits brings back PTSDā or something like that. If that is not the case then imo, it is not your place to tell her what or how she should choose what she wears. However, if you think she is doing stuff intentionally (which seems improbable based on what youāve said in your post), then you definitely can ask her about the reason behind her doing that. Again, this doesnāt mean that you can tell her what she wears/doesnāt wear. This just means stuff like āIf youāre flashing your bits to woo me, then sorry, Iām not being wooedā.
So in conclusion, in my opinion, ābecause it makes me uncomfortableā is not a good enough argument to tell another human what to do /not do something. Sure, if it has demonstrable negative repercussions like the way harassment/physical assault, etc. do, then it makes sense do prevent someone else from doing the causal action. Hence, in your case, unless you seeing your daughterās bits has demonstrable negative effects on you, you have no right to dictate her choice of clothing.