1. Post in [email protected] attacks the entire concept of AI safety as a made-up boogeyman
  2. I disagree and am attacked from all sides for ā€œposting like an evangelistā€
  3. I give citations for things I thought would be obvious, such as that AI technology in general has been improving in capability compared to several years ago
  4. Instance ban, ā€œpromptfondling evangelistā€

This one Iā€™m not aggrieved about as much, itā€™s just weird. Itā€™s reminiscent of the lemmy.ml type of echo chamber where everyoneā€™s convinced itā€™s one way, because in a self-fulfilling prophecy, anyone who is not convinced gets yelled at and receives a ban.

Full context: https://ponder.cat/post/1030285 (Some of my replies were after the ban because I didnā€™t PT Barnum carefully enough, so didnā€™t realize.)

  • echolalia@lemmy.ml
    9Ā·
    3 months ago

    I hardly think itā€™s suddenly different, itā€™s just actually different. Itā€™s two different scenarios.

    By the way, my dad works at nintendo and can beat up your dad.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
      2Ā·
      3 months ago

      Itā€™s actually covered by the existing TOS. Thereā€™s affirmative support for the standards of:

      • Welcoming attitude and approach,
      • Rational debate and discussion,
      • Genuine exchanges of ideas,

      And under ā€œWhat is Unacceptable,ā€ it lists ā€œauthoritarianism,ā€ and advocating or encouraging ā€œthe spread of behavior that is designed to overturn the standards described so far.ā€ Iā€™d say this absolutely qualifies as advocacy for both authoritarianism in moderation, and overturning the ideas of welcoming participants to a rational discussion and genuine exchange of ideas. You might not have been aware of it, mistakes happen, but it is on you.

      • echolalia@lemmy.ml
        9Ā·
        3 months ago

        Alright well, Iā€™ll have my popcorn bucket ready when db0 defederates from awful.systems for ā€œauthoritarianismā€ over snark coms. Keep me posted.

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
          2Ā·
          3 months ago

          Oh, no, I didnā€™t mean the whole instance, I just meant you. I think trying to strive for standards of open discussion across the whole rest of the Lemmy world would be a hopeless task. Just a special case to ban any person who really openly expresses approval for mods banning people just because itā€™s snarky to do so, though, I think is a nice way to illustrate the real meaning of what theyā€™re so openly expressing, when the snark is directed at the other boojum.

          Iā€™ll leave it up to the mods here if they want to stoop to that level, of course. I think the point is made.

          • echolalia@lemmy.ml
            9Ā·
            3 months ago

            Alright, sure.

            Iā€™ll bite.

            (edit: my eating popcorn picture isnā€™t working and I gave up making it work)