• Deceptichum@kbin.social
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    The 6.8% not wanting to be independent is the telling part.

    Everyone else either wants to openly call themselves independent on carry on as they are in already being functionally independent.

    tl;dr: No one wants to be part of China or not independent.

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      The vast majority of people want things to stay the same. Both independence and reintegration are very small minorities.

      What that tells me is China has a lot of work to do to entice Taiwan. That’s it.

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        1/4 is not very small.

        Furthermore keeping things the same is to be independent or do you think China currently controls what they do?

        After the disaster of HK, Taiwan is never going to join China.

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          1/4 is pretty small.

          It’s basically the same as the relationship between the US and Puerto Rico. Lots of autonomy, not independence.

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            Okay, think of it this way.

            What exactly is the relationship between the two?

            Do taxpayers of one nation see their taxes spent in the other? No? That’s because Taiwan is not China, and China does not own Taiwan.

            No laws passed in China have effect in Taiwan, China has zero say in how the country is run, but everyone has to pretend that Taiwan is part of China or else Pooh Bear will throw a bitchy fit and invade.

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              The Chinese State is heavily invested in Taiwan, it’s clearly not just an independent country.

              China will only invade if the West keeps arming them, because China won’t tolerate an arms buildup in Taiwan. That’s a perfectly reasonable stance. Imagine China started shipping billions of dollars of weapons to Puerto Rico lol

              Pooh Bear

              Ah yes, calling a Chinese man a yellow animal. Definitely not racist.

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                  You are not a Chinese dissident. It’s definitely been magnified in the West because Winnie the Poo is a fat yellow animal.

                  Also, your article is paywalled, but it sounds to me like investment was heavy and now its being cracked down on. Why do you think that is???

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                    Pooh Bear is a single man. It’s not racism when your insult only applies to a single dictator. Tankies love to scream racism at calling Xi Pooh Bear, but are really just mad that we all make fun of their favorite dictator.

                    As to Chinese investment in Taiwan. Since you can’t read the article, just know that Taiwan bans investment from any company connected to the Chinese government, and has tightened those rules to include international subsidiaries.

                    Other sources I’ve seen have put the grand total of allowed investments in Taiwan from China at less than $6 billion US. In other words, a rounding error to their GDP.

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                The USA is heavily invested in China - does that make China a province of the USA? Does IMF investment in Africa/Asia mean that the West is morally justified in invading them whenever they decide to buy weapons off Russia?

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        It tells me that most people prefer an eternal cold war to escalating to a hot war. If China backed off and made it clear they would not attack, those numbers would change.