I didn’t expect one of the things to carry over from reddit is the rabid anti tipping culture and abunch of people making up shit to justify their preferences.
I now have a job that gets tips, if someone doesn’t tip IDC, the overall tips are good and I don’t know the story of the person not tipping. When I give a funny look is when someone hits the no tip button and looks up at me like they’re waiting for some kind of response.
I don’t have time to care about your financial state, you all are just making up shit in your heads to justify shit to yourselves
Tipping isn’t prevalent here so your comment seems strange to me. I’d never tip unless service was above and beyond. The reason why is that I feel companies use tips to depress wages, and tipping culture puts pressure on customers and not the company.
I don’t see why you’re angry at people who choose not to give you money in a system that allows them to choose, when the system is clearly the issue.
I’m sorry, I misunderstood who I was responding to. I don’t get how to see the parent comments on this service.
I don’t care if someone tips or not. If you provide top tier service regardless of the tip amount, then the tips you get at the end of the pay period are quite good.
I’m upset and tired of the near conspiratorial tone and constant complaining about tipping. Would it be better if wages were better? Yes, but they are not, tip or don’t, that’s fine. Some people may get upset if someone doesn’t tip but I find it really unlikely that servers will even remember who you are by the end of the night much less hold or grudge or try and mess with anyone’s order over you not giving a couple bucks or so.
This seems like a weird take. Put another way, you’re withholding what you know to be fair compensation for services rendered as a form of protest against the company, but at the workers’ expense? Just trying to make sense of your perspective.
The fair compensation for the service is the actual price of the service I have to legally pay. How the worker gets compensated for their work is not my concern. The service worker is employed by the restaurant for example, not by me just wanting to eat a pizza.
Tipping is an optional reward for outstanding service, and american companies realised their employees could survive (probably) on tips so they don’t have to fairly compensate their employees. If you have to ask for optional donations from people just to survive you are just a beggar, the fair compensation for your work needs to come from your employer.
Hear hear. I’ll support any workforce if they unionise and fight for better pay. I won’t support them passively aggressively shaming customers for not wanting to pay more than the advertised price to top up wages they agreed to in their contact.
The way I see it is that the company is already withholding pay for this situation to even exist.
Americans are being led to believe tipping is the only way “unskilled” low paying work can exist. Yet these companies often make money hand over fist. They’d just make less money if they had to fairly pay their staff. But Americans seem to look down on the workers that do these roles, so companies get to exploit them.
If you’re salaried, imagine your boss randomly said to you “Sorry, I can only afford half your salary. But you can ask our clients if they could graciously donate a small percentage of what they’re paying for our services. Hopefully it makes up the difference.” You’d be furious! You wouldn’t agree to such a change. So why agree to it for food service workers?
Then the workers need to unionise and bargin with their employer to get a living wage. It shouldn’t be on the customer being guilted into topping that up.
You know lots of us on Reddit were anti tip as we come from countries without the “pay your stuff under minimum wage and let customers top it up volunterily” culture. In the UK, I don’t feel guilty about not giving a tip as I know the waiter, delivery driver, etc is being paid a living wage to begin with. I may leave a tip of I think the service or food is above anf beyond what’s expected, but it’s not for every meal. I’ve noticed a lot of food places have delivery costs now they didn’t have before Covid so I’m less likely to top those drivers.
I never said it was “just people being cheap” also that’s an article written by the business owner, who’s business went under a month before. He also tried that again in Oakland and that closed as well
I didn’t expect one of the things to carry over from reddit is the rabid anti tipping culture and abunch of people making up shit to justify their preferences.
I now have a job that gets tips, if someone doesn’t tip IDC, the overall tips are good and I don’t know the story of the person not tipping. When I give a funny look is when someone hits the no tip button and looks up at me like they’re waiting for some kind of response.
I don’t have time to care about your financial state, you all are just making up shit in your heads to justify shit to yourselves
Tipping isn’t prevalent here so your comment seems strange to me. I’d never tip unless service was above and beyond. The reason why is that I feel companies use tips to depress wages, and tipping culture puts pressure on customers and not the company.
I don’t see why you’re angry at people who choose not to give you money in a system that allows them to choose, when the system is clearly the issue.
I’m sorry, I misunderstood who I was responding to. I don’t get how to see the parent comments on this service.
I don’t care if someone tips or not. If you provide top tier service regardless of the tip amount, then the tips you get at the end of the pay period are quite good.
I’m upset and tired of the near conspiratorial tone and constant complaining about tipping. Would it be better if wages were better? Yes, but they are not, tip or don’t, that’s fine. Some people may get upset if someone doesn’t tip but I find it really unlikely that servers will even remember who you are by the end of the night much less hold or grudge or try and mess with anyone’s order over you not giving a couple bucks or so.
This seems like a weird take. Put another way, you’re withholding what you know to be fair compensation for services rendered as a form of protest against the company, but at the workers’ expense? Just trying to make sense of your perspective.
The fair compensation for the service is the actual price of the service I have to legally pay. How the worker gets compensated for their work is not my concern. The service worker is employed by the restaurant for example, not by me just wanting to eat a pizza.
Tipping is an optional reward for outstanding service, and american companies realised their employees could survive (probably) on tips so they don’t have to fairly compensate their employees. If you have to ask for optional donations from people just to survive you are just a beggar, the fair compensation for your work needs to come from your employer.
Hear hear. I’ll support any workforce if they unionise and fight for better pay. I won’t support them passively aggressively shaming customers for not wanting to pay more than the advertised price to top up wages they agreed to in their contact.
The way I see it is that the company is already withholding pay for this situation to even exist.
Americans are being led to believe tipping is the only way “unskilled” low paying work can exist. Yet these companies often make money hand over fist. They’d just make less money if they had to fairly pay their staff. But Americans seem to look down on the workers that do these roles, so companies get to exploit them.
If you’re salaried, imagine your boss randomly said to you “Sorry, I can only afford half your salary. But you can ask our clients if they could graciously donate a small percentage of what they’re paying for our services. Hopefully it makes up the difference.” You’d be furious! You wouldn’t agree to such a change. So why agree to it for food service workers?
Then the workers need to unionise and bargin with their employer to get a living wage. It shouldn’t be on the customer being guilted into topping that up.
You know lots of us on Reddit were anti tip as we come from countries without the “pay your stuff under minimum wage and let customers top it up volunterily” culture. In the UK, I don’t feel guilty about not giving a tip as I know the waiter, delivery driver, etc is being paid a living wage to begin with. I may leave a tip of I think the service or food is above anf beyond what’s expected, but it’s not for every meal. I’ve noticed a lot of food places have delivery costs now they didn’t have before Covid so I’m less likely to top those drivers.
It’s not just people being cheap. I encourage you to read this piece and think about the ideas in it:
https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/08/tipless-restaurants-the-linkerys-owner-explains-why-abolishing-tipping-made-service-better.html
I never said it was “just people being cheap” also that’s an article written by the business owner, who’s business went under a month before. He also tried that again in Oakland and that closed as well
do people really not tip then expect a reaction? that’s just fucking weird.