• Ellia Plissken@lemm.ee
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    4 hours ago

    correct me if I’m wrong, but the United States doesn’t even have oil refineries that are capable of making gasoline out of American oil? like we need the type of oil that the middle East has, so we’re constantly trading oil back and forth even though we have plenty of it

    I think I’ve heard this is true. something about politicians wanting to look environmentalist and therefore preventing the building of any more refineries

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      4 hours ago

      Offhand I believe we have a few that can do light oil, but most of ours wouldn’t want to change over even if offered to do so for free. Rather the reason is the US has a lot of chemical engineers and capital and so is good at refining the more challenging to deal with and cheaper to get heavy oils while selling the easy to refine and therefore more valuable light oil we dig up down in Texas to places that have more primitive refineries.

      While we could retrofit all of our our refining capacity to use our oil, it doesn’t make financial sense because your spending a lot of money to switch to an more expensive input, so companies arn’t going to want to do it unless the government forces them to, and the government would only force them to if it wanted to spite everyone else and raise domestic gas prices.

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      3 hours ago

      US gasoline production was around 1.4 million barrels/day last year. Large amounts are exported and imported though, so there was a grain of truth to your claim.

      • Ellia Plissken@lemm.ee
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        3 hours ago

        yes but how much of that gasoline was made from American crude oil? America has plenty of refineries, just none of them designed for American oil

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          31 minutes ago

          U.S. refineries generally focus on producing gasoline to meet U.S. market demand, and they produce nearly all of the gasoline sold in the United States.
          https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/where-our-gasoline-comes-from.php

          Supply chain wise it would be absolute lunacy to build processing systems which can only handle foreign materials, not your abundant national supply.
          Besides, crude oil us primarily classified based on density and sulphur content. It’s all hydrocarbons and a portion of all of it can be turned into gasoline. Light low sulphur (sweet) is preferred, but that is strictly due to yield and profit margins.

          • Ellia Plissken@lemm.ee
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            27 minutes ago

            dude. we are not talking about the gasoline. we are talking about the oil being used to make the gasoline. what percentage of the crude oil being refined into American gasoline is American produced crude oil?