• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This scientist who wrote a paper about the 4th dimension had this to say about what a 4d being, appearing to us would look like to our eyes.

    “We would see disconnected blobs of flesh, some attached to claws, teeth, lips, eyes, or hair…”

    Reading that made me wonder if biblical Angels are 4th or 5th dimensional beings that appeared to people in the past with environmental warnings or something, and of course an ancient human would see that and immediately think it’s a celestial being

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      4 months ago

      I mean, celestial means “the heavens” so… they pretty much are. Like even if they had a different mode of travel altogether that would allow bypassing traveling through space, they still would have come from the stars… or beyond this universe (or something even weirder like time).

    • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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      4 months ago

      If humans are bound to a three dimensional realm it only makes sense that god created angels as higher dimensional beings to intercede between the limited humans and the infinity of god.

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        4 months ago

        How interesting that god in their infinite wisdom would fail to account for the design flaw. Or maybe they were lazy and just didn’t care how these beings would appear to us.

        Can an infinite being be lazy or fail to account for a design flaw? Seems less than infinitely wise to me.

        And if it’s just a test, why is this infinitely wise being running quality assurance on his creation. Shouldn’t all that infinite wisdom have precluded the need for testing?

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        4 months ago

        Not necessarily true - an infinite god would not “need” other beings, higher-dimensional or otherwise - to intercede.

        The cool part is that it is not necessarily false either - if a plethora of beings were created, like not just animals & plants or even bacteria and fungi and viruses, but also beyond matter-based ones into gaseous forms, plasma, raw energy, or other stuff we don’t even so much know about (involving patterns of those raw things but connected in ways that we cannot yet see and likely have not began to fathom), well… they could be put to use in an intercessory capacity.

        And if so, then perhaps we too will do similarly, when we grow up enough - e.g. if we create AI and become a “creator” to them. They too will have a purpose or at least reason that they were created, and they, being like us, will likely want to know what that is. Perhaps we will hard-code those answers into their cortexes, or perhaps we won’t bother to explain at all, but likely we would do something in-between. Just like the stories of the various gods that we have heard about all around the world explain might have been done to us. Who really knows? Certainly not I, but it is fascinating to think about.

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    4 months ago

    The third rank angels (in the picture on the right) are also called Ophanim (“wheels”) or Thrones.

    There are two other major weird classes of angels in the Abrahamite mythology: Sephardim and Cherubim. Most Angels apparently have to say this one sentence whole day without interruption to praise the Abrahamite God.

    IIRC: Some Angels were fallen because they fucked with and impregnated mortal human women (I do not know about consent status), which brought violent giants into existence.

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      4 months ago

      Another inaccuracy is “covered their eyes with wings” being translated as “covered in eyes and wings”.

      In fact, there are depictions of both going back many centuries, with the former being the most common until memes came along. It even makes more sense contextually, because the accounts would be written by humans and due to the aforementioned fallen angels it was probably not allowed for angels to even make eye contact with Humans.