• Dem Bosain@midwest.social
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    6 months ago

    They’re not wrong. Azov have been far-right extremists since the beginning. But imagine if a foreign country invaded the US and gained a sizable stronghole. We’d be arming right-wing militias to repel the invaders too.

    They’re a help now, but Azov will be a problem in the future.

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    6 months ago

    Okay, and?

    Russia is the pressing threat. Throw Russia out first, and retake Crimea. Then deal with Azov fanatics. That’s what triage is; you deal with the big thing first, and then the smaller things. You don’t treat an amputated finger while someone is gushing blood from a severed carotid.

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        6 months ago

        Never going to happen.

        Defeatist.

        Also never going to happen.

        Also defeatist.

        This is the point in time where I ask how Putin’s boot tastes like. Palestine kept fighting for over 80 years and your view of Ukrainian resolve speaks volumes. Sure, Azov might be the Ukrainian equivalent to Hamas, but last I checked invasion tends to breed extremist groups and those extremist groups tend to be a pain in the invaders ass. Word to IS and Al Quaida, who still haven’t been defeated by US imperialists. Will it take some time for them to get curbed after all is said and done? Yes, just look at the IRA. Needless to say, you’ve got plenty of other historical precedent to contend with.

  • TrendigOsthyvel@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This play ruzzian propaganda so well. Just keep adding stories about nazis i ukraine and at the end, noone will be certain about whats true or not. Still, ofc there are nazis in ukraine, but that is true about all countries.

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      6 months ago

      Sadly I’m still pretty sure the most damage here has been done by Ukraine itself:

      Yes, of course there are some nazis in Ukraine. Sadly every country seem to have some fringe right-wing morons. And using them to fight Russia, especially in a time when the offcial army wasn’t up to the task yet, was understandable.

      But that’s not the main problem. The main problem is doubt that Ukraine will be able to handle them at some point when it’s necessary. And when -to paraphrase Ukraine’s then ambassador to Germany for example in 2015- the answer to the question if they realize that this can become a problem down the road is: “No, you are lying to help Russian propaganda! There are and never in history were any right-wing groups in Ukraine!” that’s a pretty big indicator that they won’t manage that problem ever. Because acknowledging it exists would have been the required first step instead of spewing insane rants.

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        6 months ago

        They were a movement that was an active militia (trained and armed) that took part in the elections and did not even get enough votes for a single seat in Parlaiment.

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    6 months ago

    Bullshit propaganda supported by disingenuous supporters of this instance.