Hoping the 15 Pro will be great for battery. Seems like 12 and 14 took steps back in battery, 13 was great and hopefully 15 will be as well.

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    It’s mind-blowing how slow the advance of batteries is compared to every other kind of technology

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      Battery tech has the limitations of chemistry to deal with. A ton of cutting-edge work is being done with exotic materials, but it needs to be ready for the mass market before we see any groundbreaking improvements.

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      Not every other kind of technology though. I think the problem is that batteries get lumped in the same category as “modern tech” (e.g., microchips and storage), rather than with energy tech.

      For example, Wikipedia says a post-war VW bug got around 35mpg. That’s similar to the combined mileage of a Civic that’s 50 years newer. Yes, the Civic is more powerful and weighs more — but we’re not talking Moore’s law improvements.

      Same if you look at power. A 1967 Corvette 427 was listed at 430 horsepower; a modern base Vette is 490 (or 670 for the Z06). Sure, the mileage is way better, etc., but again, hardly Moore’s law improvements.

      Energy and power are tricky.

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        The 67 was measured with no accessories or load. It would be about 350 bhp today. It also had ledded fuel that would be like running on only e85 and with no cat today. If you had that the Z06 would be well over 1000 hp with the old rating.

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      I mean sure, but it’s also kind of the opposite. Energy density has increased dramatically from lead acid technologies.

      The real issue is you’re not going to leave leftover power untapped, so the tech will always exceed the battery as they try to leech every last drop of power from the system.

      Sorta like an energy chicken and an egg situation.

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      More like Apple is slow to advance their battery size. Samsung is offering like, 5000mAh batteries in their A series phones (Hyperbole yes, but still)

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          Besides bigger batteries make phones heavier pretty quickly. For mobile devices, optimized system and apps is very important.

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          Ehhhhh, when your making a completely integrated device, Optimization is the core. And, an iPhone with a 5000mAh+ battery would probably last 2 whole days.

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            Idk what phone you have but my 13 pro easily lasts 2 days for me, light usage I could probably get 3.

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    I see that the source is unproven but if true, I’m happy for these changes. That said, I really want this phone to be much lighter. It is noticeably heavy. Let’s get rid of the stainless steel on the Pro.

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    I’d welcome this. My ancient moto phone had a 5000 mah battery in it and is thinner than my iPhone 13. Idk why they haven’t crammed more in before now.

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    • iPhone 15: 3877mAh (18% increase)
    • iPhone 15 Plus: 4912mAh (13.6% increase)
    • iPhone 15 Pro: 3650mAh (14.1% increase)
    • iPhone 15 Pro Max: 4852mAh (10.9% increase)

    That’s still less than what you can get from the Samsung Galaxy lineup. This is really just another catch-up story by Apple. But of course, it is always spun as some genius innovation that Apple invented just now…

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      Even if it’s still less than android phones, you still charge them all daily. It’s a question of efficiency really.

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      I don’t think anyone is spinning a bigger battery as genius innovation by Apple, but a bigger battery is nice to have. I wouldn’t even say this is Apple catching up though, battery life comparisons between the 14 Pro Max and S23 Ultra have been favorable to the iPhone and that’s with the Samsung having a 16% bigger battery.

      Plus it’s a good thing to have companies competing with each other. I’m glad Samsung is putting bigger batteries in their phones if it gets Apple to continue improving battery life.

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        Yea “battery life” is the intersection of energy consumption and energy storage. Focusing purely on the spec sheet (the size of the battery) makes a very incomplete (and frequently biased) comparison.

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      IMO majority of iPhone users couldn’t care less about any Android phone performance. It’s all about year after year iPhone vs IPhone specs.

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    What I’d like - an iPhone that uses a M1 or M2 chip, and has enough storage to run a full OS-X implementation on it. Use it in phone mode, or in reduced power (slow) mode, run Mac apps. - or if you want the full “Mac” experience, plug it into power and with a wireless keyboard and mouse you have your entire computer there and be able to share the output to a full-size monitor wirelessly.

    That said, it would come to an iPad first, but I can dream…