UniversalMonk, PapaSkwat, DonaldJMusk, TheSilentNickel, QuantumTickler, his communities are full of Astro turfing sock puppets.
EDIT: My list of sock puppets. I doubt it’s perfect and I may have picked up a few that weren’t him
Area15@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today
EndlessApollo@hilariouschaos.com
EndlessApollo@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
KaratinBandit@feddit.uk
PapaSkwat@lemmings.world
PapaSkwat@lemmy.today
PhilipsHurtFeelings@crazypeople.online
QuantumTickle@maga.place
Rhoerii@lemy.lol
Snatchdaddy@hilariouschaos.com
TheSilentNickel@feddit.org
barrygoldwater@lemmy.wtf
donaldjmusk@maga.place
thesilentnickel@lemmy.today
thesilentnickel@lemmyusa.com
donaldjmusk@lemmyusa.com
quantumtickler@hilariouschaos.com
quantumtickler@feddit.org
quantumtickler@lemmy.myserv.one
To the mods of this comm, I understand this isn’t a post complaining about a mod action taken against me. It’s hardly even a complaint against a mod, although he does mod a handful of communities. I know it’s a hard-to-prove personal message that the accused will deny sending or say was a joke he told a troll, his word vs mine. But this is beyond the usual actions mods take. This is abuse of the fediverse, harrassment, ban evasion, and vote manipulation.
I believe the situation to be self evident even without this message that the users who frequent DonaldJMusk’s comms are primarily him with a new username on a new server and they’re leaking out into other communities with ill intent.
If action is to be taken against this post, I ask that it be locked and not deleted.
Sometimes when I feel like a failure or I’m not applying myself enough in life, then I read shit like this and realize I’m doing just fine .
Considering we’re not anything like the users who spin bots to harass people, we’re probably doing pretty okay. I’m weird but I’m not that weird.
hes saying he DOESNT do that so your making fun of him while you cant even read aparently
It’s kind of funny that he thinks people don’t know that he’s a reactionary wet fart. Anyone who watches the stupid side of the threadiverse with any kind of regularity can see the pattern.
He thinks he’s being subtle, but Lemmy smells out right-wing bullshit better than most places on the Web. Nobody likes what he’s selling.
He’s after a captive audience because we know better. He thinks his ideas, or maybe just his chaos, is more acceptable when said by somebody that isn’t him but NOBODY is buying his anti-Luigi comments.
Yeah, this place isn’t Reddit; there’s not a culture of ironic fascism to hide behind on Lemmy/ Piefed.
It’s part of why I like it here.
🧐
The type of person who joined lemmy because they were tired of propoganda is not about to fall for that same proproganda, especially to this mf who think he is being subtle
Obligatory fuck UniversalMonk and his stupid AI character in each of his accounts’ pfp. Dude is easily the worst parts of the fediverse wrapped up in a shit bow. Just block lemmy.today its a fascist instance. Same with the lemmyusa.today one or whatever.
The bigger problem here is that lemmy.today is being used as a gateway for astroturfing. That’s the issue that needs fixing here.
Isn’t the point of the federation to enable defederating rogue instances, or am I wrong on that?
Hot take: this is why automatic federation is a bad idea. Even if your malicious instance gets defederated, you can just spin up a new one!
I imagine eventually automatic federation will stop being a thing for a lot of instances.
Yes. That was precisely what I was getting at there lol.
Well fair enough
I never liked the idea of blocking. Shoving my fingers in my ears and singing “la la la” allows these antics to continue unchallenged. Besides, they’re not all on one instance.
I picked Lemmy.today because it allows me to block instances instead of the admins deciding which to defed from. But I do acknowledge that it allows a lot of freaks in.
Aussie.zone lets you block instances too. And it’s not facist.
Are the admins of lemmy.today shown to be fascist? I haven’t heard anything about that. I guess if you consider them allowing Monk to do this, they’re at least allowing it
Hi, Admin from lemmy.today here. I’m certainly not a fascist and I wouldn’t be associated with any instance or participate on an Admin Team that is.
Speaking of Admin Teams I think every member of ours (including me) has separately investigated the accusation that DJM and UM are the same person and to date none of us have come up with anything. We have engaged with several Lemmy users from other instances who claimed to have proof but none of them provided anything other than conjecture and accusation.
If you, or anyone else, actually has some proof feel free to message any member of the lemmy.today admin team.
also been able to on dbzer0, I had thought it was a universal feature
settings > blocks > block instance (scroll down)
Except an admin confirmed UM isn’t doing this.
This admin will state that UM is a bot. And wouldn’t ya know it some of the other signup attempts used the alt names. Weird that.
I don’t think many admins know infosec practices very well to be frank.
So we have 2 admins who have proof he’s not and 1 who has no proof (documents, photos, just anecdotal).
Nooope, I have IP data, email logs, and other things. However, much of the data had fallen off my WAF retention period. Oddly convenient how you just assume I don’t have these things rather than keeping them close because I don’t want the bots to figure out how I’m catching them.
When you conveniently leave out that providing proof reduces an admins ability to re-use certain detection methods, it makes me pretty convinced you’re complicit.
When you conveniently leave out that providing proof reduces an admins ability to re-use certain detection methods
How the heck would anyone but you know that your proof would reveal your detection method? That’s not a given.
And what’s the point of collecting proof if the only way you have to convince others is “trust me bro, I’ve got the evidence, but you can’t see it, my dog ate it.”
And then when asked for proof you jump to implicate the person asking for proof? That’s terrible form. We have an instance rule against bad-jacketing users:
- Don’t be shitty to each other. i.e. […] or bad-jacketing is bannable.
Well, You’re more than welcome to reach out on more secure comms, such as matrix to get the proof! It’s strange how that’s basically standard for most of the other respectable instances, but not here.
Give the documents then? And am I a bot now too?
Give the documents then? And am I a bot now too?
Interesting how you continue to leave out the security implications of posting this publicly.
Odd that.
I know not if you are a bot, you aren’t on my instance, nor would it be likely you could get through my process.
I do know that you are awfully defensive of sockpuppet like behavior though.
The sock puppet behavior of… One user being harassed by users and defending them? The sock puppet behavior of… Wanting screenshots?
Hey @[email protected] is it possible to take screenshots that would prove something without being a security leak?
Like somehow you claim he signed up with the same email. Or same address, or anything. But no proof because it’s a security risk.
Yeah I have Bigfoot in my basement. No you can’t see him. No I can’t give you photographs. Just take my word for it. Why yes others have said it without proof before but I’m different.
Did they actually confirm it wasn’t UM, or did they say there wasn’t enough evidence to confirm it was UM?
No proof it was UM doing this via any IP addresses. The admin from lemmy.today posted here in reply to someone.
And this admin, do they administer all of these instances? Or just one of them?
Or rather, this admin, do they have a WAF? Are they analyzing the traffic that comes in? Are the sure they’re checking every point of interaction for consistency? If no, then they didn’t really “Check”.
lemmy.today admin, so the one who a chunk of the bots are under.
I tagged a couple more a while back that I thought might be him.
PhilipsHurtFeelings and WilliamFBuckley are on my short list too. I have my suspicions about barrygoldwater, his trans best friend. Any account that has ever posted in a greenparty comm or there’s a third_party one out there now too he’s started.
BarryGoldwater is 100%. If I remember correctly DJM and Barry accounts were created at the same time. Like minutes apart with same shitty AI avatar and everything.
Barrygoldwater is a bot associated with UM. UM also is associated with CM0002 from an IP standpoint given the last “bot signup attack” I experienced. (Fun fact they use barrygoldwater in their email they use to sign up from)
I wonder what Russia would be like if the majority of them actually gave a fuck about their current living standards instead of just being fucking loser trolls obsessed with America
Reminds me of a post I read from a Russian tourist that visited Warsaw who was pissed off that the city was so nice and clean, whereas most of Russia is an unkempt shitheap.
Mind you he was not mad that Russia was a shitheap, he was mad that _Poland was not _
Yeah I remember that, it’s fucking crazy what the propaganda can do and shape someone’s world view like that. I just was reading that totally aghast that their mind could go to the completely opposite of what it should
Can you share a link? I don’t remember where it was and I’d like to read it again.
The inverse Paris syndrome
You can usually tell them because they all have similarly styled AI generated avatars and some random libertarian quote in their bio.
“Why are you mad at me? I didn’t write the article.” or talking about Lemmy as if we’re all one big 70-IQ liberal or posting 90% in communities he mods. He’s not good at it, but it’s happening nonetheless.
Don’t forget the obligatory “thanks, friend!”
I’d just like to add that piefed.social, Rimu has already banned a lot of these accounts.
That guy sounds like a complete cunt. Absolute waste of oxygen. Here’s hoping horrific things happen to him and his team of turds. Enjoy hell, cyka.
He has a
pensionpenchant for creating accounts mocking people that troll him such as QuantumTickle, pooperNickel, PapaSkwat, DarkDecay, and probably others. Sometimes he steals their name, sometimes he is almost original.Penchant BTW.
Learn something new every day!
Sometimes he steals their name
Interesting: that’s been an M.O. of another troll with many alts, except she does it across many social media platforms: http://archive.today/2024.04.29-024239/https://www.deviantart.com/noname234252/journal/An-extensive-rundown-of-Triagonal-Tynan-Laird-1046099342
ahhh that makes sense. the most upsetting thing to me is how much of his own time he’s wasting. like literally everyone who sees his stuff immediately clocks him as either playing a character, or too stupid to interact with.
just a sad, sad person.
well it’s really just a bot so no time wasted
So is cm0002 but no one seems to mind besides the troika and one other instance.
Cm0002 isn’t doing it to astroturf though, although a lot of people do mind.
It’s spammy, doesn’t credit the OPs, looks a lot like astroturfing, and is plain wrong, but since it’s against the original instances, it’s not only tolerated, but encouraged and applauded.
And imo that’s what karma is, thinking it’s somehow different when I or someone I like does it against someone I don’t like, kind of like certain treaties and other interstate agreements. And then people marvel the world is gone to rubbish, or complain when it’s done to them.
I’ve seen a lot of people complain about it. But regardless of your position, this particular situation is worse. This is someone essentially admitting to astroturfing.
but it’s different because…
Yes, I do view this as different. If specific servers want to ban all cm0002’s on sight - that’s up to them. But I view this effort as much more damaging and damaging beyond being annoying to people on the Fediverse.
I view it as karma, the unlearned lesson, that led all of us, to borrow a biblical expression, that led to us having corrupt politicians.
To explain: We were okay with Dems insider trading because “it was different,” and “not as bad as.” So corruption grew and we got what we got. And we will keep getting that until we hold ourselves and “our side” to the same standards we expect from others, from our plug on the corner to blowing up Venezuelan fishermen to combat drugs, but it’s really for oil and rare earths, or genociding Palestinians because Democrats wrong their hands while persuing genocidal policies through a state fighting proxy wars on our behalf because of our “interests in the area.”
Because if we refuse to root it out of ourselves and “ours,” why on earth would “they and theirs” root it out in themselves, giving us an unfair advantage? Escalation continues, and we are seeing a very real chance of nuclear holocaust now, because it’s always different when it’s us, of the “us” saying so.
And yet a few do hold ourselves and ours accountable. That’s why the troika isn’t engaging in cm002 tactics, and Iran didn’t obliterate an illegal state engaging in war crimes, including genocide, despite having the weapons and skill to anahilate everyone, disregarding women and children in the area, as Israel did to Palestine.
But do you. And marvel how the world is now on the brink of MAD.
I didn’t say anyone should be “okay” with CM’s behaviour. People are welcome to make similar threads here, and petition other admins of instances.
In any case, whatever hypocrisy here you say doesn’t matter. Whether or not CM is stopped or not wouldn’t stop DonaldJMusk from doing this. They are not connected. He wouldn’t see that CM is banned and think “Well gee, I won’t bother them!” That’s not how any of this works.
It’s different because they said it’s different.
;-}
CM0002 may not be shaking the cage as hard, but he is still a bot - and associated with the same botnet when I got a burst of signups for UM and his alts.
Interesting. If you can screenshot the logs and share them, maybe admins who allow this corruption will take appropriate action.
Are these all based from lemmy.today?
No, most aren’t.
You should put in the instances they’re operating from so people can investigate. Or are you saying they’re all from every instance that comes up in search?
I usually find them through going to the modlog, typing in the username, and letting the autocomplete tell me what instances that username exists on. They’re all over the place. I will admit the [email protected] was me counter-trolling but I am not finding Lemmy worth the fight.
Okay, yeah, most of the major communities here where they operate from are lemmy.today and hilariouschaos.
Unmoderated instances.
Yeah, I would advise you to delete your alt mirroring him because it makes it harder to isolate for him.
Done
Lemmy.today isn’t unmoderated.
Low moderated might be a better way of putting it.
Fair. I’m sure it will be challenging to retain our low touch policy as the instance and / or the lemmiverse continues to grow. The laissez-faire approach only works for so long.
Full transcript of message:
The downvotes don’t mean anything anyway, cuz the articles are still right there in community, comrade aaron
Don’t worry, im not celebrating that a special team now has 300 different names on here on lemmy. no not me. I wouldnever celebrate such a psyops. i wouldnt be part of that,yes?
isnt that great? 30 people. just 10 names each. now 300 accounts. all acting liberal getting liberal respect. Then slowly surely changing minds as we bring out flaws of liberal .
And they r hiri8ng more. pay very good for here.
Not that I have anything to do w that.but it is so funny how its all happening under Lemmys eyes and no one can stop it.
news articles here and there. they seem liberal or neutral. then little by little they change. no one even notice.
All happengin and no one even knows.
not that i havetowrry since i have nothing to do with that.
No, not me. Just little old me here in my corner being ban happy. no bother to anyone. no cares here.
i would never lead a a team of 30 people to creat 300 accounts just to change minds of pity americans.
dont worry comrade aaron about me. I am just being quiet and ban happy here in my little corner.
dont worry because i woudl never have teams of peole not getting banned in all the other communities. some that you have argue about, but they keep us there.
they are not getitn banned anywhere. they are playing verygood game of tricking lemmy.
But not me. not little oldme, aaron.
you have never ever gotten rid of me and you never will. isnt that good news,comrade aaron?
lemmy is in land of free so no law broken just becuae ur mad. isn’t that funny? differning opinions are good, yes?
будь здоров aaron. no need to worry about me little old me in my quiet corner no bother
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Yeah I downvoted several of his more daring lies and now he follows me around everywhere under the PapaSkwat name.
He calls you Aaron, too, huh?
He messaged me like he knew me. I think he tells himself that he only has 1 person downvoting his stuff. Maybe there was an Aaron in the past? I don’t really care, I just want him to fuck off.
I posted about this a month or so ago. I only uncovered PapaSkwat at the time. DJM was supposedly targeted by a downvote botnet months ago and he suspected a [email protected], but considering how he’s letting a user with that name post in his comms I’m willing to bet that DonaldJMusk did it to himself to garner pity.
Well, he certainly has my pity.
Fascinating!
